From: Janet ® 17/07/00 18:17:08
Subject: Titanic post id: 100662
Not sure if my leg is being pulled but.....


A colleague was telling me that the cook on the Titanic drank much scotch prior to the ship going belly up. Said scotch then acted as an anti-freeze..... and unlike the others who perished in the freezing waters quickly ...... the cook survived for 2 or so hours.....

Am I being lead up the proverbial path or was this possible?


From: bluejay 17/07/00 18:22:36
Subject: re: Titanic post id: 100668
i think it has some merits; body mass and body fat are also important as well as whether or not they have eaten anything before going to bed.

From: Janet ® 17/07/00 18:24:49
Subject: re: Titanic post id: 100672
According to colleague...... others perished in the freezing waters within minutes.....whereas the jolly drunk cook, lasted 2 hours before being rescued.

From: Chris W (Avatar) 17/07/00 18:46:06
Subject: re: Titanic post id: 100694
Seems unlikely. Alcohol is something you don't give to a hypothermic patient. I believe it causes the vascular capilliaries to dilate, bringing blood to the surface and allowing the body to cool faster.


From: DV (Avatar) 17/07/00 18:48:24
Subject: re: Titanic post id: 100699
Maybe you should ask your friend for a source.

From: Janet ® 17/07/00 18:51:05
Subject: re: Titanic post id: 100701
Maybe you should ask your friend for a source

It was probably TV Week.......
He's an avid Titanic collector........ I guess that's not really proof enough though?


From: Peter C 17/07/00 21:21:03
Subject: re: Titanic post id: 100785
Was the cook was fat? Penguins and many artic animals are fat.

From: Arhrus 17/07/00 23:12:33
Subject: re: Titanic post id: 100841
Yes, alcohol does cause blood vessels to dilate. So the cook had to have been a fairly large man.

From: steve(primus) ® 17/07/00 23:56:04
Subject: re: Titanic post id: 100877
The drunken cook is a famous character in the Titanic disaster and he appeared in every movie. My understanding is that he was not in the water for two hours but took refuge on the upturned lifeboat after Mr Lightoller took it over.

From: James Richmond (Avatar) 18/07/00 10:31:11
Subject: re: Titanic post id: 100929
The story is certainly based on fact. I'll get back with the details when I have more time.

JR


From: Grant¹ (Avatar) 30/07/00 14:02:11
Subject: re: Titanic post id: 107654

The story is certainly based on fact. I'll get back with the details when I have more time.
Any more info on this subject?


From: Baden (ignoramus) 30/07/00 15:47:21
Subject: re: Titanic post id: 107685
When you say "cook" what position do you mean exactly?

I've got a book that lists the entire passenger and crew list, marking the survivors, and of the "victualling department" crew surviving there are kitchen clerks, pantrymen, sauce cooks, scullions (definition anyone?), entree cooks, bakers and vegetable cooks listed.

Nothing about that particular anecdote though :-(


From: Boris ® 30/07/00 16:04:57
Subject: re: Titanic post id: 107696
Scullion: 1) a mean or despicable person
2)Arch. a servant employed to work in a kitchen

Dictionaries are a great reference %^)


From: James R (Avatar) 30/07/00 22:05:04
Subject: re: Titanic post id: 107934
Thanks for reminding me, Grant.

Charles Joughin was Chief Baker aboard Titanic. He had been drinking heavily on the night the ship sank. He did a lot of running around helping passengers into lifeboats and equipping people with lifebelts before the ship sank. When it sank, he stepped off the stern rail into the water. Since the sea was calm he did not get his head wet.

Whilst many of the passengers simply floated in their lifebelts, and therefore succumbed to hypothermia from the freezing water, Joughin kept swimming and moving around for about 2 hours, before he finally made it to Collapsible B lifeboat, which had overturned in the final moments of Titanic's sinking. Here, one of the other bakers, who knew him, held onto his hand. He stayed half in and half out of the water for another half hour or so until Number 4 lifeboat picked up all the people on Collapsible B.

A combination of alcohol in the blood, plus a good constitution and action to maintain body temperature led to Joughin surviving where many hundreds of others did not.

JR

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