From: !{O_O}! 05/09/2001 19:50:21 Subject: global warming post id: 401294 what do you make of this page? http://www.globalwarming.org/brochure.html i'm doing a project for school and i've got stacks of info about how global warming is the biggest problem ever. i was convinced after reading time to change by david suzuki, but now i wonder what are the facts? From: ray ® 05/09/2001 20:01:39 Subject: re: global warming post id: 401303 I for one think that the whole global warming thing is at worst a very big media beat up. I think there are things associated with our greedy approach to ravishing the natural resources of the planet at such a fast pace that will have far more reaching implications than global warming. From: Zardoz ® 05/09/2001 20:05:01 Subject: re: global warming post id: 401311 !{O_O}! link http://www.globalwarming.org/brochure.html" global warming From: Alan™ ® 05/09/2001 20:15:47 Subject: re: global warming post id: 401320 For a differing view on global warming, http://www.daviesand.com/Choices/Precautionary_Planning/New_Data/" From: Manfred ® 05/09/2001 21:02:31 Subject: re: global warming post id: 401377 David Suziki should stick to studying fruit flies. He has a lot to answer for with his wacky new age ideas. You could also try reading Ian Plimers new book "a short history of planet earth" or try this site: www.sepp.org From: 4D Specs 05/09/2001 21:08:33 Subject: re: global warming post id: 401382 We don't know exactly what effect greenhouse gas emmissions are having on the climate, but any change in climate is likely to harm more people than it helps (because development has occurred that suits the present climate). greenhouse gas emmissions are likely to increase the rate of change. we should therefore reduce greenhouse gas emissions. Apart from that, reducing energy wastage is just economic good sense. From: OP (Avatar) 06/09/2001 9:36:23 Subject: re: global warming post id: 401827 The fraction of climatologists who don't believe that (a) global warming is a serious problem and (b) the main cause is human activity, is very small, and getting smaller all the time. Bush handpicked a blue-ribbon scientific committee on climate change, presumably hoping for something ambiguous or undecided, but there was just no way they could avoid the fact: almost all authorities accept anthropogenic global warming as real. Give it up, peeps. From: Bifurcated 06/09/2001 9:40:28 Subject: re: global warming post id: 401834 Do we have any idea what the possible consequences of global warming might be? From: OP (Avatar) 06/09/2001 10:02:18 Subject: re: global warming post id: 401854 http://www.ipcc.ch/pub/sr97.htm This report analyses the likely effects of GW, by geographic region From: Alan™ ® 06/09/2001 15:05:15 Subject: re: global warming post id: 402357 The views of the climatologists generally disagree with the standard views of the geologists studying climate change, OP. The historical and geological records indicate that the temperature has regularly fluctuated even when in an ice age or between them. Personally I have absolutely no problem with the reduction of man made pollution, including green house gases and ozone depleting gases. In fact I believe it to be an excellent move, at worst it will have no impact and how knows it may stop artificial global warming. But I see that some of the views expressed by some the more extreme climatologists are just scare mongering combined with a media beat up, so that their funding gets continued. The truth of the matter is that no one has any real idea what what is going to happen with the climate, the global temperature may go up, it may go down or it may remain where the global temperature may remain constant. From: Geraint ® 06/09/2001 15:24:00 Subject: re: global warming post id: 402379 Don't just have the media hype - try and see two side of the argument ( http://www.vision.net.au/~daly/ here is plenty of evidence of no heating, sea level rises etc), then make up your mind. Personally - while I believe we are in a long term interglacial period, I don't see the manmade global warming that the press tells us is there, especially the fictional sea level rises. From: Greg L. ® 06/09/2001 20:39:45 Subject: re: global warming post id: 402868 But I see that some of the views expressed by some the more extreme climatologists are just scare mongering combined with a media beat up, so that their funding gets continued. The truth of the matter is that no one has any real idea what what is going to happen with the climate, the global temperature may go up, it may go down or it may remain where the global temperature may remain constant. Sad but true, unfortunately. Some even go so far to make ridiculous statements like the Earth is going to become a 'Venus', is going to become uninhabitable, or drowned over completely with water (as in waterworld) or even explode! It's sad most of the media swallow it up hook, line and sinker when the Earth has suffered far worse greenhouse conditions in the past, as well as far worse ice ages. From: DocMercury ® 06/09/2001 20:44:14 Subject: re: global warming post id: 402871 "the Earth has suffered far worse greenhouse conditions in the past, as well as far worse ice ages." True! But never before have we as a species been so dependant upon technological luxury in order to survive. This is our biggest problem, should change ever be exceptionally dramatic. Most will simply die, when few will know how to live without TV and PC... A bit like the survivors shipwrecked on an island, who starved because noone knew how to cook. From: Preacher77 06/10/2001 23:18:31 Subject: re: global warming post id: 443666 Here's one you probably haven't heard before. Global Warming is REAL, but it is the result of the Ice produced immediately after Noah's Flood (the Ice Age)slowly melting back to a state of natural equalibrium. The vulcanism associated with the Biblical Noah's Flood, warmed the oceans causing much more evaporation than normal, and this water vapour fell as vast quantities of snow in the higher latitudes, and these Ice Sheets slowly crept down towards the equator until the ocean temperatures cooled enough to stop evaporating so abundantly. For much more (and better) info on this `far-out' idea, visit this site: www.answersingenesis.org From: steve (Avatar) 07/10/2001 6:11:10 Subject: re: global warming post id: 444115 Global Warming is REAL, but it is the result of the Ice produced immediately after Noah's Flood (the Ice Age)slowly melting back to a state of natural equalibrium. Preacher you really do grasp at straws to support your hypothesis. Which ice age are we talking about here, there have been many? How does the Noah's flood idea support the Little Ice Age of the 14th to 18th centuries? What about the Mediaeval Warm Period that preceded it? How does Noah's flood explain the apparent rapid rise in global temperatures in the last 50 years or so? As you haven't answered any of my previous questions on any topic, I don't expect you to answer this one. BTW Answers in Genesis doesn't give the answers. This forum is un-moderated. The views and opinions expressed are those of the individual poster and not the ABC. The ABC reserves the right to remove offensive or inappropriate messages.