From: Woman:) ® 08/09/2002 11:12:57
Subject: Poetry VIII post id: 162737
It's Sunday
Time for a little poetry
time for a new poetry thread

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Fire and Ice
by
Robert Frost


Some say the world will end in fire;
Some say in ice.
From what I've tasted of desire
I hold with those who favor fire.
But if it had to perish twice,
I think I know enough of hate
To know that for destruction ice
Is also great And would suffice.






From: Richard C ® 08/09/2002 11:17:18
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 162742
I like Frost and I especially like this.

1. The Road Not Taken


TWO roads diverged in a yellow wood,
And sorry I could not travel both
And be one traveler, long I stood
And looked down one as far as I could
To where it bent in the undergrowth; 5

Then took the other, as just as fair,
And having perhaps the better claim,
Because it was grassy and wanted wear;
Though as for that the passing there
Had worn them really about the same, 10

And both that morning equally lay
In leaves no step had trodden black.
Oh, I kept the first for another day!
Yet knowing how way leads on to way,
I doubted if I should ever come back. 15

I shall be telling this with a sigh
Somewhere ages and ages hence:
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I-
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference

Robert Frost


From: boxhead ® 08/09/2002 11:17:19
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 162743

Dognammit :)

[alt 2]



"Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it."
Andre Gide.

From: Woman:) ® 08/09/2002 11:21:11
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 162745

WOW, that was fast *aplause*

(((:Thank you Boxy, Poet of the Barn:)))

xxx


Welcome to the Poetry Thread - Richard-who-shares-his-sunsign-with-Shakespeare-C. :)))...Two roads diverged in a wood, and I-
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference


and I bet YOU did ;-)



xxx

From: Richard C ® 08/09/2002 11:32:47
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 162753
Thank you for the welcome, Woman.

I didn't know I shared Will's sun sign, I'm sure it must be significant but it hasn't rubbed off on me very much, I have no poetry writing talent whatsoever. My only claim to fame as far as poetry is concerned is when I was 10 years old, at primary school we were asked to read our favourite poem to the class so I read mine:

"It is an ancient Mariner,
And he stoppeth one of three.
'By thy long beard and glittering eye,
Now wherefore stopp'st thou me?"

and continued to read all 300+ verses of Samuel Taylor Coleridge's epic.

From: Adrian 08/09/2002 13:20:25
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 162823
A little something i wrote:
DEVIL
im seen as the devil
but im not on youre level
im in the depths of the dark abyss
youre on the high almightys cliffs
i will always try to reach you
but forever i will fall
i will keep on trying
which is the greatest love of all

From: Katelyn ® 08/09/2002 13:31:08
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 162832
A poem from the Fox Kids

Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall
Mr Humpty had a big fall
All of the kings horses and all of the kings men
Could not put Mr Humpty Dumpty together agin

Another poem

Mary had a little lamb
Its fleece was as white as snow
Everywhere that Mary went
The lamb was sure to go

Another

Little Miss muffet
Sat on a tuffet
Eating her Curds and whey
Then came down a big spider
That sat down beside her
And frightened Miss Muffet away.

The Fox Family




From: Woman:) ® 08/09/2002 13:34:31
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 162834

Lovely, Young Katelyn! And Welcome :)))Thanks for making this place even nicer:)


From: beowulf ® 08/09/2002 16:39:00
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 162975

I like Frost's poem "Cow in Apple Time"

If anyone can find it and posts it here it would be greatly appreciated :o)

From: marthasay ® 08/09/2002 16:48:04
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 162981
THE COW IN APPLE-TIME

Something inspires the only cow of late
To make no more of a wall than an open gate,
And think no more of wall-builders than fools.
Her face is flecked with pomace and she drools

A cider syrup. Having tasted fruit,
She scorns a pasture withering to the root.
She runs from tree to tree where lie and sweeten.
The windfalls spiked with stubble and worm-eaten.

She leaves them bitten when she has to fly.
She bellows on a knoll against the sky.
Her udder shrivels and the milk goes dry.

- Mr. Frost.

From: beowulf ® 08/09/2002 16:50:58
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 162984

Thankyou marthasay :o)

From: lubes ® 08/09/2002 16:54:43
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 162989
A potato clock
A potato clock
I must get
A potato clock...
(Roger McGough)

From: boxhead ® 08/09/2002 17:28:38
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 163030

State of Mind

If you think you are beaten, you are;
If you think you dare not, you don't!
If you'd like to win, but you think you can't,
It's almost certain you won't.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

If you think you'll lose, you're lost;
For out in the world we find
Success begins with a fellow's will;
It's all in the state of mind!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

If you think you're outclassed, you are;
You've got to think high to rise.
You've got to be sure of yourself
Before you 'll ever win the prize.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Life's battles don't always go
To the stronger or faster man;
But sooner or later the man who wins
Is the person who thinks he can!

Author Unknown




"Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it."
Andre Gide.

From: boxhead ® 08/09/2002 17:40:11
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 163044

Mailman
(Soundgarden)

Hello don't you know me
I'm the dirt beneath your feet
The most important fool you forgot to see
I've seen how you give it
Now I want to receive
I know that you would do the same for me

I know I'm headed for the bottom
But I'm riding you all the way

For all of your kisses turned to spit in my face
For all that reminds me which is my place
For all of the times when you made me disappear
This time I'm sure you will know that I'm here

I know I'm headed for the bottom
But I'm riding you all the way

My place was beneath you but now I'm above
And now I send you a message of love
A simple reminder of what you won't see
A future so holy without me

I know I'm headed for the bottom
But I'm riding you all the way

Lyrics: Cornell




"Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it."
Andre Gide.

From: The Phantom Menace ® 08/09/2002 18:05:01
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 163058

A Purple Cow

Gelett Burgess

I never saw a Purple Cow,
I never hope to see one;
But I can tell you, anyhow,
I'd rather see than be one.


From: mars ® 08/09/2002 18:23:44
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 163071
I HOPE YOU DANCE

I hope you never lose your sense of wonder
You get your fill to eat but always keep that hunger
May you never take one single breath for granted
God forbid love ever leave you empty handed
I hope you still feel small when you stand beside the ocean
Whenever one door closes I hope one more opens
Promise me that you’ll give faith a fighting chance
And when you get the choice to sit it out or dance
I hope you dance
I hope you dance

I hope you never fear those mountains in the distance
Never settle for the path of least resistance
Living might mean taking chances but they’re worth taking
Loving might be a mistake but its worth making
Don’t let some helping heart leave you bitter
When you come close to selling out reconsider
Give the heavens above more than just a passing glance
And when you get the choice to sit it out or dance,
I hope you dance
I hope you dance
Dance....
Author Unknown

From: Dropbear ® 08/09/2002 18:34:20
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 163077
No matter how you shake and you dance,
the lost drop always falls in your pants

Graffiti on toilet wall


From: ruby. ® 08/09/2002 18:44:25
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 163085
Mars,thank you for that...

From: Richard C ® 08/09/2002 19:01:16
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 163097
More latrine poetry:

"No use standing on the seat, the crabs in here can jump ten feet".

From: The Phantom Menace ® 08/09/2002 19:22:20
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 163104

V.B. Nimble, V.B. Quick

John Updike

V.B. Wigglesworth wakes at noon,
Washes, shaves and very soon
Is at the lab; he reads his mail,
Swings a tadpole by the tail,
Undoes his coat, removes his hat,

Dips a spider in a vat
Of alkaline, phones the press,
Tells them he is F.R.S.,
Subdivides six protocells,
Kills a rat by ringing bells,

Writes a treatise, edits two
Symposia on "Will man do?,"
Gives a lecture, audits three,
Has the sperm club in for tea,
Pensions off an ageing spore,

Cracks a test tube, takes some pure
Science and applies it, finds,
His hat, adjusts it, pulls the blinds,
Instructs the jellyfish to spawn,
And, by one o'clock, is gone.


From: Dropbear ® 08/09/2002 19:39:24
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 163113
here I sit, broken hearted.
paid 10c and only farted

-- pay-loo poetry


From: Toni D ® 08/09/2002 20:37:07
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 163182
How do I love thee? Let me count the ways
by Elizabeth Barrett Browning

How do I love thee? Let me count the ways.
I love thee to the depth and breadth and height
My soul can reach, when feeling out of sight
For the ends of Being and ideal Grace.
I love thee to the level of every day's
Most quiet need, by sun and candle-light.
I love thee freely, as men strive for right;
I love thee purely, as they turn from praise,
I love thee with the passion put to use
In my old griefs, and with my childhood's faith.
I love thee with a love I seemed to lose
With my lost saints -I love thee with the breath,
Smiles, tears, of all my life! -and, if God choose,
I shall but love thee better after death.



From: Toni D ® 08/09/2002 20:38:20
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 163185
Time, Real and Imaginary
by Samuel Taylor Coleridge

An Allegory

On the wide level of a mountain's head,
(I knew not where, but 'twas some faery place)
Their pinions, ostrich-like, for sails outspread,
Two lovely children run an endless race,
A sister and a brother!
This far outstripped the other;
Yet ever runs she with reverted face,
And looks and listens for the boy behind:
For he, alas! is blind!
O'er rough and smooth with even step he passed,
And knows not whether he be first or last.



From: Toni D ® 08/09/2002 20:39:18
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 163186
Upon Spenser's Faerie Queene
by Sir Walter Raleigh

Methought I saw the grave where Laura lay,
Within that temple where the vestal flame
Was wont to burn; and passing by that way,
To see that buried dust of living fame,
Whose tomb fair Love and fairer Virtue kept,
All suddenly I saw the Faery Queen;
At whose approach the soul of Petrarch wept;
And from thenceforth those Graces were not seen,
For they this Queen attended; in whose stead
Oblivion laid him down on Laura's hearse:
Hereat the hardest stones were seen to bleed,
And groans of buried ghosts the heavens did pierce, -
Where Homer's sprite did tremble all for grief,
And cursed th' access of that celestial thief.



From: jj ® 08/09/2002 20:39:46
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 163188
and blake's "the poison tree"

From: Toni D ® 08/09/2002 20:40:08
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 163189
A Lament
by Percy Bysshe Shelley

O World! O Life! O Time!
On whose last steps I climb,
Trembling at that where I had stood before;
When will return the glory of your prime?
No more -Oh, never more!

Out of the day and night
A joy has taken flight:
Fresh spring, and summer, and winter hoar
Move my faint heart with grief, but with delight
No more -Oh, never more!



From: Toni D ® 08/09/2002 20:40:55
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 163192
Love's Philosophy
by Percy Bysshe Shelley

The fountains mingle with the river
And the rivers with the ocean,
The winds of Heaven mix for ever
With a sweet emotion;
Nothing in the world is single,
All things by a law divine
In one spirit meet and mingle -
Why not I with thine?

See the mountains kiss high Heaven
And the waves clasp one another;
No sister-flower would be forgiven
If it disdained its brother;
And the sunlight clasps the earth,
And the moonbeams kiss the sea -
What are all these kissings worth
If thou kiss not me?



From: Toni D ® 08/09/2002 20:41:48
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 163194
Portia
by Oscar Wilde

I marvel not Bassanio was so bold
To peril all he had upon the lead,
Or that proud Aragon bent low his head
Or that Morocco's fiery heart grew cold:
For in that gorgeous dress of beaten gold
Which is more golden than the golden sun
No woman Veronese looked upon
Was half so fair as thou whom I behold.

Yet fairer when with wisdom as your shield
The sober-suited lawyer's gown you donned,
And would not let the laws of Venice yield
Antonio's heart to that accursed Jew -
O Portia! take my heart: it is thy due:
I think I will not quarrel with the Bond.



From: Toni D ® 08/09/2002 20:42:53
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 163195
Lucy Strange Fits of Passion I Have Known
by William Wordsworth

Strange fits of passion have I known:
And I will dare to tell,
But in the Lover's ear alone,
What once to me befell.

When she I loved looked every day
Fresh as a rose in June,
I to her cottage bent my way,
Beneath an evening moon.

Upon the moon I fixed my eye,
All over the wide lea;
With quickening pace my horse drew nigh
Those paths so dear to me.

And now we reached the orchard-plot;
And, as we climbed the hill,
The sinking moon to Lucy's cot
Came near, and nearer still.

In one of those sweet dreams I slept,
Kind Nature's gentlest boon!
And all the while my eyes I kept
On the descending moon.

My horse moved on; hoof after hoof
He raised, and never stopped:
When down behind the cottage roof,
At once, the bright moon dropped.

What fond and wayward thoughts will slide
Into a Lover's head!
"O mercy!" to myself I cried,
"If Lucy should be dead!"



From: Toni D ® 08/09/2002 20:43:35
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 163199
Surprised By Joy
by William Wordsworth

Surprised by joy -impatient as the wind
I turned to share the transport -Oh! with whom
But Thee, deep buried in the silent tomb,
That spot which no vicissitude can find?
Love, faithful love, recalled thee to my mind -
But how could I forget thee? Through what power,
Even for the least division of an hour,
Have I been so beguiled as to be blind
To my most grievous loss? -That thought's return
Was the worst pang that sorrow ever bore
Save one, one only, when I stood forlorn,
Knowing my heart's best treasure was no more;
That neither present time, nor years unborn,
Could to my sight that heavenly face restore.



From: Toni D ® 08/09/2002 20:44:42
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 163203
1794 - Songs of Experience
A Poison Tree
by William Blake

I was angry with my friend:
I told my wrath, my wrath did end.
I was angry with my foe:
I told it not, my wrath did grow.

And I watered it in fears
Night and morning with my tears,
And I sunned it with smiles
And with soft deceitful wiles.

And it grew both day and night,
Till it bore an apple bright,
And my foe beheld it shine,
And he knew that it was mine -

And into my garden stole
When the night had veiled the pole;
In the morning, glad, I see
My foe outstretched beneath the tree.



From: jj ® 08/09/2002 20:46:45
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 163205
thanks toni ...
"1794 - Songs of Experience
A Poison Tree
by William Blake

I was angry with my friend:
I told my wrath, my wrath did end.
I was angry with my foe:
I told it not, my wrath did grow.

And I watered it in fears
Night and morning with my tears,
And I sunned it with smiles
And with soft deceitful wiles.

And it grew both day and night,
Till it bore an apple bright,
And my foe beheld it shine,
And he knew that it was mine -

And into my garden stole
When the night had veiled the pole;
In the morning, glad, I see
My foe outstretched beneath the tree.


From: boxhead ® 08/09/2002 20:51:12
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 163214

2001 Peaceful

Do You Hear It?
The jumbled words
The crowded quiet

it is peace,
it is home

Do you feel
the isolation of it
in the dark
Amongst the others
The peace in madness
True Sanity
inside psychosis

This is my home
This is my peace.

Eric Owens




"Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it."
Andre Gide.

From: The Rev Dodgson ® 08/09/2002 20:55:34
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 163226
AMELIA


I was driving across the burning desert
When I spotted six jet planes
Leaving six white vapor trails across the bleak terrain
It was the hexagram of the heavens
it was the strings of my guitar
Amelia, it was just a false alarm

The drone of flying engines
Is a song so wild and blue
It scrambles time and seasons if it gets thru to you
Then your life becomes a travelogue
Of picture-post-card-charms
Amelia, it was just a false alarm

People will tell you where they've gone
They'll tell you where to go
But till you get there yourself you never really know
Where some have found their paradise
Other's just come to harm
Oh Amelia, it was just a false alarm

I wish that he was here tonight
It's so hard to obey
His sad request of me to kindly stay away
So this is how I hide the hurt
As the road leads cursed and charmed
I tell Amelia, it was just a false alarm

A ghost of aviation
She was swallowed by the sky
Or by the sea, like me she had a dream to fly
Like Icarus ascending
On beautiful foolish arms
Amelia, it was just a false alarm

Maybe I've never really loved
I guess that is the truth
I've spent my whole life in clouds at icy altitude
And looking down on everything
I crashed into his arms
Amelia, it was just a false alarm

I pulled into the Cactus Tree Motel
To shower off the dust
And I slept on the strange pillows of my wanderlust
I dreamed of 747s
Over geometric farms
Dreams, Amelia, dreams and false alarms


Joni Mitchell

From: marthasay ® 08/09/2002 20:56:27
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 163229

Howling Tranquility, and The Third I sees Echelon Eight,
in a triptych mirror - smeared with fetal blood, regret and monkey fears,
in a Very Large Disarray - it's SETI from the other end, mate.
Flood of sewage outfall petty, and a Windex wipe of pale blue tears.

Off-ramp curves over a half-life's span, with double yellow lines of dread.
Non-tramp Jane changes tires in the rain, while dreaming shades of pain retread.

Build a, a, a, ahhh… end to all your dreams, build it down.
Lift it low as you can go and pray with your legs wide spread.
Dusting names off with a plastic brain, camo sweats off blades of syneth-brown.
The sheep look up, but are not fed, a Sony program fills their head.

Please rewind this tape.


From: Toni D ® 08/09/2002 20:57:41
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 163232
methinks marthasay that you need a reference to books...or maybe bookmarks?

From: jj ® 08/09/2002 20:58:25
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 163234
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A snake came to my water-trough
On a hot, hot day, and I in pyjamas for the heat,
To drink there.
* * *
In the deep, strange-scented shade of the great dark carob tree
I came down the steps with my pitcher
And must wait, must stand and wait, for there he was at the trough before me.
* * *
He reached down from a fissure in the earth-wall in the gloom
And trailed his yellow-brown slackness soft-bellied down, over the edge of the stone trough*
And rested his throat upon the stone bottom,
And where the water had dripped from the tap, in a small clearness,
He sipped with his straight mouth,
Softly drank through his straight gums, into his slack long body,
Silently.
* * *
Someone was before me at my water-trough,
And I, like a second-comer, waiting.
* * *
He lifted his head from his drinking, as cattle do,
And looked at me vaguely, as drinking cattle do,
And flickered his two-forked tongue from his lips, and mused a moment,
And stooped and drank a little more,
Being earth-brown, earth-golden from the burning bowels of the earth
On the day of Sicilian July, with Etna smoking.
* * *
The voice of my education said to me
He must be killed,
For in Sicily the black, black snakes are innocent, the gold are venomous.
* * *
And voices in me said, If you were a man
You would take a stick and break him now, and finish him off.
* * *
But must I confess how I liked him,
How glad I was he had come like a guest in quiet, to drink at my water-trough
And depart peaceful, pacified, and thankless,
Into the burning bowels of this earth?
* * *
Was it cowardice, that I dared not kill him?
Was it perversity, that I longed to talk to him?
Was it humility, to feel so honoured?
I felt so honoured.
* * *
And yet those voices:
If you were not afraid, you would kill him!
* * *
And truly I was afraid, I was most afraid,
But even so, honoured still more
That he should seek my hospitality
From out the dark door of the secret earth.
* * *
He drank enough
And lifted his head, dreamily, as one who has drunken,
And flickered his tongue like a forked night on the air, so black,
Seeming to lick his lips,
And looked around like a god, unseeing, into the air,
And slowly turned his head,
And slowly, very slowly, as if thrice adream,
Proceeded to draw his slow length curving round
And climb again the broken bank of my wall-face.
* * *
And as he put his head into that dreadful hole,
And as he slowly drew up, snake-easing his shoulders, and entered farther,
A sort of horror, a sort of protest against his withdrawing into that horrid black hole,
Deliberately going into the blackness, and slowly drawing himself after,
Overcame me now his back was turned.
* * *
I looked round, I put down my pitcher,
I picked up a clumsy log
And threw it at the water-trough with a clatter.
* * *
I think it did not hit him,
But suddenly that part of him that was left behind convulsed in undignified haste,
Writhed like lightning, and was gone
Into the black hole, the earth-lipped fissure in the wall-front,
At which, in the intense still noon, I stared with fascination.
* * *
And immediately I regretted it.
I thought how paltry, how vulgar, what a mean act!
I despised myself and the voices of my accursed human education.
* * *
And I thought of the albatross,
And I wished he would come back, my snake.
* * *
For he seemed to me again like a king,
Like a king in exile, uncrowned in the underworld,
Now due to be crowned again.
* * *
And so, I missed my chance with one of the lords
Of life.
And I have something to expiate:
A pettiness.

--D.H. Lawrence
from .... http://home.earthlink.net/~rudedog2/snake.htm

From: jj ® 08/09/2002 20:58:26
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 163235
my favourite poem.

SNAKE

A snake came to my water-trough
On a hot, hot day, and I in pyjamas for the heat,
To drink there.
* * *
In the deep, strange-scented shade of the great dark carob tree
I came down the steps with my pitcher
And must wait, must stand and wait, for there he was at the trough before me.
* * *
He reached down from a fissure in the earth-wall in the gloom
And trailed his yellow-brown slackness soft-bellied down, over the edge of the stone trough*
And rested his throat upon the stone bottom,
And where the water had dripped from the tap, in a small clearness,
He sipped with his straight mouth,
Softly drank through his straight gums, into his slack long body,
Silently.
* * *
Someone was before me at my water-trough,
And I, like a second-comer, waiting.
* * *
He lifted his head from his drinking, as cattle do,
And looked at me vaguely, as drinking cattle do,
And flickered his two-forked tongue from his lips, and mused a moment,
And stooped and drank a little more,
Being earth-brown, earth-golden from the burning bowels of the earth
On the day of Sicilian July, with Etna smoking.
* * *
The voice of my education said to me
He must be killed,
For in Sicily the black, black snakes are innocent, the gold are venomous.
* * *
And voices in me said, If you were a man
You would take a stick and break him now, and finish him off.
* * *
But must I confess how I liked him,
How glad I was he had come like a guest in quiet, to drink at my water-trough
And depart peaceful, pacified, and thankless,
Into the burning bowels of this earth?
* * *
Was it cowardice, that I dared not kill him?
Was it perversity, that I longed to talk to him?
Was it humility, to feel so honoured?
I felt so honoured.
* * *
And yet those voices:
If you were not afraid, you would kill him!
* * *
And truly I was afraid, I was most afraid,
But even so, honoured still more
That he should seek my hospitality
From out the dark door of the secret earth.
* * *
He drank enough
And lifted his head, dreamily, as one who has drunken,
And flickered his tongue like a forked night on the air, so black,
Seeming to lick his lips,
And looked around like a god, unseeing, into the air,
And slowly turned his head,
And slowly, very slowly, as if thrice adream,
Proceeded to draw his slow length curving round
And climb again the broken bank of my wall-face.
* * *
And as he put his head into that dreadful hole,
And as he slowly drew up, snake-easing his shoulders, and entered farther,
A sort of horror, a sort of protest against his withdrawing into that horrid black hole,
Deliberately going into the blackness, and slowly drawing himself after,
Overcame me now his back was turned.
* * *
I looked round, I put down my pitcher,
I picked up a clumsy log
And threw it at the water-trough with a clatter.
* * *
I think it did not hit him,
But suddenly that part of him that was left behind convulsed in undignified haste,
Writhed like lightning, and was gone
Into the black hole, the earth-lipped fissure in the wall-front,
At which, in the intense still noon, I stared with fascination.
* * *
And immediately I regretted it.
I thought how paltry, how vulgar, what a mean act!
I despised myself and the voices of my accursed human education.
* * *
And I thought of the albatross,
And I wished he would come back, my snake.
* * *
For he seemed to me again like a king,
Like a king in exile, uncrowned in the underworld,
Now due to be crowned again.
* * *
And so, I missed my chance with one of the lords
Of life.
And I have something to expiate:
A pettiness.

--D.H. Lawrence
from .... http://home.earthlink.net/~rudedog2/snake.htm

From: jj ® 08/09/2002 21:00:46
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 163241
well, it IS worth scrolling down for ... but I have no idea what happened there ... goodnight folks ... and thankyou so much toni for trying ... it's a humanity thing. jj

From: sarahs mum ® 08/09/2002 21:02:14
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 163242
i love amelia. i posted it in a poetry thread this time last year, i think.

From: Captain Spalding ® 08/09/2002 21:03:20
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 163243
Goodnight, jj

From: The Rev Dodgson ® 08/09/2002 21:04:48
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 163247
Sarahs mum

My daughter bought me a Joni Mitchell CD for Fathers Day.

She's a clever girl :)

From: jj ® 08/09/2002 21:05:03
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 163249
taa captain ... over and out (is that what i say? my partner says that if I watched more war films I wouldn't have to ask so many questions about planes and subs and things ... :)))
goodnight now and gone.

From: sarahs mum ® 08/09/2002 21:11:27
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 163265
>My daughter bought me a Joni Mitchell CD for Fathers Day.
She's a clever girl :)


yes, she is.
does it have coyote? or california?

From: J.F. ® 08/09/2002 21:12:48
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 163269
Thanks, jj. It reminded me that when I was in Primary School I read and loved Kipling's "The Jungle Book". Forget the Disney version + read the original. I have not seen the Disney version -- I was not sure I could bear it.

I once knew more lines but now all I recall is:

"Anger is the egg of fear
Only lidless eyes are clear"

from the snake's song to Mowgli. For the text, see:

http://www.cc.gatech.edu/people/home/idris/Poetry/Kipling.htm.

From: Rabid Roge ® 08/09/2002 21:13:59
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 163271
Ahhh Joni


I could drink a case of You

Artist Poet and very thoughtful musician

I love her!

Rr

From: Rabid Roge ® 08/09/2002 21:36:01
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 163295

Oh i am a lonely painter
I live in a box of paints
I am frightened by the devil
And I'm drawn to those who aint afraid
I remember that time that you told me, you said
"Love is touching souls"
Surely you touched mine
'Cause part of you pours out of me
in these lines from time to time

Oh you're in my blood like holy wine
And you taste so bitter and you taste so sweet
I could drink a case of you
I could drink a case of you darling
Still I'd be on my feet
I'd still be on my feet

I met a woman
she had a mouth like yours
she knew your life
she knew your devils and your deeds
and she said
"go to him, stay with him if you can
Oh but be prepared to bleed"
Oh but youre on my blood like holy wine
Oh and you taste so bitter but you taste so sweet
Oh I could drink a case of you darling
Still I'd be on my feet
Still I'd be on my feet
I'd still be on my feet

1972 Joni Mitchell



From: The Rev Dodgson ® 08/09/2002 21:40:54
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 163300
Also from 1972, or was it 2002?

CALIFORNIA


Sitting in a park in Paris, France
Reading the news and it sure looks bad
They won't give peace a chance
That was just a dream some of us had
Still a lot of lands to see
But I wouldn't want to stay here
It's too old and cold and settled in its ways here
Oh, but California
California I'm coming home
I'm going to see the folks I dig
I'll even kiss a Sunset pig
California I'm coming home

I met a redneck on a Grecian isle
Who did the goat dance very well
He gave me back my smile
But he kept my camera to sell
Oh the rogue, the red red rogue
He cooked good omelettes and stews
And I might have stayed on with him there
But my heart cried out for you, California
Oh California I'm coming home
Oh make me feel good rock'n roll band
I'm your biggest fan
California, I'm coming home

CHORUS:

Oh it gets so lonely
When you're walking
And the streets are full of strangers
All the news of home you read
Just gives you the blues
Just gives you the blues

So I bought me a ticket
I caught a plane to Spain
Went to a party down a red dirt road
There were lots of pretty people there
Reading Rolling Stone, reading Vogue
They said, "How long can you hang around?"
I said "a week, maybe two,
Just until my skin turns brown
Then I'm going home to California"
California I'm coming home
Oh will you take me as I am
Strung out on another man
California I'm coming home

CHORUS:

Oh it gets so lonely
When you're walking
And the streets are full of strangers
All the news of home you read
More about the war
And the bloody changes
Oh will you take me as l am?
Will you take me as l am?
Will you?


Joni Mitchell

http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/singerAllSongs/151C1D29BAC907F748256A430005EBA7


From: furious ® 09/09/2002 02:17:16
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 163692
I don't need your way of life
I can't stand your attitudes
I can do without your strife
I don't need this f'ing world
I don't need this f'ing world

This world brings me down
Gag with every breath
This world brings me down
I'm looking forward to death

It seems so unreal to me
So much hate and so mouch pity
I can't take another day
It's such a bore
It gets me really sore
I don't need this f'ing world
I don't need this f'ing world
This world brings me down
Gag with every breath
This world brings me down
I'm looking forward to death
Looking forward to death

From: James R (Avatar) 09/09/2002 02:19:54
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 163695
That's a bit of a downer, furious. Who wrote it?

From: furious ® 09/09/2002 02:23:11
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 163698
Dead Kennedys...

From: sarahs mum ® 09/09/2002 02:45:30
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 163720
A Reason for Breathing

I pictured myself on a boat on a river with tangerine trees and nervous dysplasia. This was to be the final chapter in my life savings. I pulled the plug and boarded an Amtrak to nowhere. I had suffered insomnia all my life, but, like Issac Newton, had put it down to apples. It was hereditary (so was my forehead).
I wished to remain anonymous in a world of Philadelphians. I ticked myself off and put myself in my place, a two-bedroomed brownstone of ill repute. I was convinced I'd been here before. Call it what you will, I call it daft. Had I walked these same dusty springfields before? Or was I just a victim of circumnavigation? Yea, tho' I walk thru Rudy Valle, I will fear no Evel Knievel. Junk food made me silly; fast food slowed me down; I had to get off at the next stop. I alighted to the sound of a military bandit.
"Do you take this woman anywhere in particular?" the voice rang out. I panicked slowly and continued to exercise my discretion.

from SKYWRITING BY WORD OF MOUTH-John Lennon



From: Woman:) ® 09/09/2002 03:00:18
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 163725


by

Robert Frost

The way a crow
Shook down on me
The dust of snow
From a hemlock tree
Has given my heart
A change of mood
And saved some part
Of a day I had rued.


From: furious ® 09/09/2002 03:12:19
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 163726
By
William Blake


Every Night & every Morn
Some to Misery are Born.
Every Night & every Morn
Some are Born to sweet delight.
Some are Born to sweet delight,
Some are Born to Endless Night.
We are led to Believe a Lie
When we see not Thro' the Eye,
Which was Born in a Night, to perish in a Night,
When the Soul Slept in Beams of Light.
God Appears & God is Light
To those poor Souls who dwell in Night,
But does a Human Form Display
To those who Dwell in Realms of Day.



From: furious ® 09/09/2002 03:13:28
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 163727
Bugger...that was slightly wrong...did you pick it?! Try this:

By
William Blake


Every Night & every Morn
Some to Misery are Born.
Every Morn & every Night
Some are Born to sweet delight.
Some are Born to sweet delight,
Some are Born to Endless Night.
We are led to Believe a Lie
When we see not Thro' the Eye,
Which was Born in a Night, to perish in a Night,
When the Soul Slept in Beams of Light.
God Appears & God is Light
To those poor Souls who dwell in Night,
But does a Human Form Display
To those who Dwell in Realms of Day.



From: Toni D ® 09/09/2002 08:38:37
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 163778
I know this is silly but I think of it a lot.
I used to live in New Zealand (3 Kings Primary School for those of you who may know it) and mum said I had the NZ accent, so yes was yiss and guess was gisss.

I have a lovely rubber ball
I bounce it high and low
But should I bounce it on the road
No! No! No!

The road is made for motor cars
And not for me I guess
So should I find a safer place
Yes! Yes! Yes!

funny what comes back to you....

From: The Phantom Menace ® 09/09/2002 08:54:20
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 163799

A Clear Midnight

Walt Whitman

THIS is the hour, O soul, thy free flight into the wordless,
Away from books, away from art, the day erased, the lesson done,
Thee fully forth emerging, silent, gazing, pondering the themes thou lovest best:
Night, sleep, death, and the stars.


From: sarahs mum ® 09/09/2002 23:12:00
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 165028
An Alphabet
A is for Parrot which we can plainly see
B is for glasses which we can plainly see
C is for plastic which we can plainly see
D is for Doris
E is for binoculars I'll get in five
F is for Ethel who lives next door
G is for orange because we love to eat when we can get them because they come from abroad
H is for England and (Heather)
I is for monkey we see in the tree
J is for parrot which we can plainly see
K is for shoetop we wear to the ball
L is for Land because brown
K is for Venezula where the oranges come from
N is for Brazil near Venezuela (very near)
O is for football which we kick about a bit
T is for Tommy who won the war
Q is a garden which we can plainly see
R is for intestines which hurt when we dance
S is for pancake or whole-wheat bread
U is for Ethel who lives on the hill
P is arab and her sister will
V is for me
W is for lighter which never lights
X is for easter--have one yourself
Y is a crooked letter and you can't straighten it
Z is for Apple which we can plainly see

This is my story both humble and true
Take it to pieces and mend it with glue




SKYWRITING BY WORD OF MOUTH. John Lennon.
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Lofts/8498/skywriting.html



From: Woman:) ® 10/09/2002 06:16:08
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 165223
Hi Adrian:)

Welcome!!:)

I post your lovely poem here again, since it only just appeared now and might have been overlooked.
(When you register, your posts will go straight through).

-----------------

From: Adrian 08/09/2002 13:20:25
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 162823

A little something i wrote:

DEVIL

im seen as the devil
but im not on youre level
im in the depths of the dark abyss
youre on the high almightys cliffs
i will always try to reach you
but forever i will fall
i will keep on trying
which is the greatest love of all




From: The Phantom Menace ® 10/09/2002 07:09:48
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 165255

Parabolic Balad

Andrei Voznesensky

Among a parabola life like a rocket flies,
Mainly in darkness, now and then on a rainbow,
Red-headed bohemian Gauguin the painter
Started out life as a prosperous stockbroker.
In order to get to the Louvre from Montmartre
He made a detour all through Java, Sumatra,
Tahiti, the Isles of Marquesas.

With levity
He took off in flight from the madness of money,
The cackle of women, the frowst of academies,
Overpowered the force of terrestrial gravity.
The high priests drank their porter and kept up their jabbering:
'Straight lines are shorter, less steep than parabolas.
It's more proper to copy the heavenly mansions.'

He rose like a howling rocket, insulting them,
With a gale that tore off the tails of their frock-coats.
So he didn't steal into the Louvre by the front door
But on a parabola smashed through the ceiling.
In finding their truths lives vary in daring:
Worms come through holes and bold men on parabolas.

There was once a girl who lived in my neighbourhood.
We went to school, took exams simultaneously.
But I took off with a bang,

I went whizzing
Through the prosperous double-faced stars of Tiflis.
Forgive me for this idiotic parabola
Cold shoulders in a pitch dark vestibule...
Rigid, erect as a radio antenna-rod
Sending its call-sign out through the freezing
Dark of the universe, how you rang out to me,
An undoubtable signal, an earthly stand-by
From whom I might get my flight-bearings to land by
The parabola does not come to us easily.

Laughing at law with its warnings and paragraphs
Art, love and history race along recklessly
Over a parabolic trajectory.

He is leaving tonight for Siberia.
Perhaps
A straight line after all is the shorter one actually.


From: sarahs mum ® 11/09/2002 03:31:33
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 166303
Railroads and Riverboats
Written by - Jim Croce & Ingrid Croce


The railroads and the riverboats
That bred the mighty men
That we read about and we dream about
The men who built this land
And the farmers and the lumbermen
And the men who work the mills
And the poor hard workin' miners
Who died inside the hill

Chorus:

While the rivers that flow
Are the blood of our land
And the trucks they keep rumbling
On the great concrete band
And the railroads keep pushin'
To be all they once were
And nature is calling
No one's listening to her

And the immigrants by the boat load in a dozen different tongues
Sang of freedom in the new land
Climb the ladder rung by rung
Some to Boston, some to Pittsburgh
Philadelphia and St. Paul
And the old ways led to new days
They were welcome one and all

Chorus

While the rivers that flow
Are the blood of our land
And the trucks they keep rumbling
On the great concrete band
And the railroads keep pushin'
To be all they once were
And nature is calling
No one's listening to her



With the railroads and the riverboats
And the breadlines far behind
And the days we sang together long gone but still in mind
And the men who came before us
Men who brought us to today
And the story still unravels from the dreams of yesterday

Chorus

While the rivers that flow
Are the blood of our land
And the trucks they keep rumbling
On the great concrete band
And the railroads keep pushin'
To be all they once were
And nature is calling
No one's listening to her



From: The Rev Dodgson ® 11/09/2002 11:34:12
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 166551
This song was written over 30 years ago, but it could have been written for today:

When You Find Out
Who You Are
by Robin Williamson

It's of a strange and furious time
when men did speed to pray
Along the road of discontent to gods of gold and clay
Some did seek security
Among the seas of change
And some did seek dear life to wound
a furious time and strange
But when you find out who you are
Beautiful beyond your dreams
Just look around and
notice where you are
Just look around and notice what you see
Each moment born for you innocently

But when I see what we have made
What we have out with the mind's blade
In the blackness feel it all
Repeated faces rise and fall
With ancient goals unwondering fail
Further obscure the ancient trail
Filling with the endless years
The river of your heart's tears
I swear you have the power
as the angels do
Spread out your fingers and
make all things new
Change the world by the things you say
By the things you love
And by the games you play
And you make each new day

It feels so funny in your mummy's tummy
Before you get born into
the world for to carry on
Remember young man of the time
before you first went to school
How did it feel trying to live to the rule
Remember young man of the time
when your love stick
First rose free between your legs
Like a growing tree
Remember you walked with your lover
Like a gypsy and a gypsy queen
Under the stars where the sign was seen
Under the stars where
the leaves were green
Under the stars where the sign was seen

0 how many shining hearts
With love has guided me
And many I have met before
in lands across the sea
We used to speak of that ocean deep
How little words can say
It's better now to ask your friend
What makes him sad today

No one can do it for you
Make your own sky blue
Make your own dreams come true
Make it come true.


From: Toni D ® 12/09/2002 21:23:23
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 168841
This is from one of my favourite current generation poets.

Verse 1: Coolio
Now I've seen places and faces
and things you ain't never thought about thinking
if you ain't peek then you must be drinking
and smokin'
pretending that you're locin' but you're brokin'
let me get you open
now little Timmy got his diploma and
little Jimmy got life
and Tamika round the corner just took her first hit off the pipe
the other homie shot the other homie and ran off with his money
and when the other homies heard about it they thought that it was funny
but who's the dummy
Cuz, now you done lost a hustler
a down-ass brother got replaced by a buster
and though I got love for ya
I know I can't trust ya
coz my crew is rollin' Hummers and your crew is rollin' dustas
and just because of that you act like you don't like the brother no more
I guess that's just the way it goes
I ain't trying to preach
I believe I can reach
but your mind ain't prepared
I'll C U when you get there

Chorus:

I'll see you when you get there
if you ever get there
see you when you get there
I'll see you when you get there
if you ever get there
see you when you get there

Verse 2: Lek Ratt (of 40 Thevz)

More temptation and faith
I guess we livin' for the day
I seen a man get swept off his feet by a boy with an AK
the situation so twisted everybody gettin lifted
I'm just tryin to take care of my kids and handle my business
coz it way too serious so you gotta pay close attention
so you don't get caught sittin' when they come and do all the gettin'
life is a big game so you gotta play it with a big heart
someone's gotta run a little faster cuz we gotta lay the struggle
I'd be a fool to surrender when I know I can be a contender
and if everybody's a sinner then everybody can be a winner
no matter you rag collar deep down we all brothers
and regardless of the time somebody up there still love us
I'm a scuff and struggle and y'all I'm breathless and weak
I just strived my whole life to make it to the mountain peak
always keep reaching sure to grab on to something
I'll be there when you get there when you wit the sound bumpin'

Chorus:

I'll see you when you get there
see you when you get there
if you ever get there
see you when you get there
I'll see you when you get there
see you when you get there
if you ever get there
see you when you get there

Verse 3: PS (of 40 Thevz)

You need to loosen up
and live a little
and if you got kids let them know how you feelin'
for your own sake give a little
oh, you don't want to hear that
you busy tryin' ta stack
and keeping up with the Jones's is taking advantage of your own
the realest homies that you've been knowing for the longest
but some ain't missing a good thing until it's gone
could have built an empire if not for the jealousy that divides us
we prefer to keep our eyes shut to describe when
it's something wrong and we desire
so hold your head up high if your poor and righteous
I know time seems right
and the problems seem endless
but at times of despair we gotta pull ourselves together
and if you feel you're out the game then you need to get back in it
coz nothing worse than a quitter
you gotta face responsibility one day, my brother
so gather up your pity and turn it to ambition
and put your vehicle and drive and stop by my side

Chorus:

I'll see you when you get there
see you when you get there
if you ever get there
when you ever get there
if you ever get there
see you when you get there
I'll see you when you get there
see you when you get there
if you ever get there
see you when you get there

(Coolio)
As we walk down the road of our destiny
and the time comes to choose which shall it be
the wide and crooked, or the straight and narrow
we got one voice to give and one life to live
stand up for something or lie down in your game
listen to the song that we sing
it's up to you to make it be
I guess I'll see you when you see me
(chorus fade out)


From: sarahs mum ® 13/09/2002 05:08:13
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 169276
this is a serious poem about a sausage.
many men learn this poem and each year thousands of speeches are addressed to sausages the whole world o'er.


The closing stanza is said to have been composed extempore during a dinner at the home of John Morrison, a Mauchline cabinet-maker. The complete poem was written soon after Burns arrived in Edinburgh, and appeared in the Caledonian Mercury on 19 December 1786 and in the Scots Magazine in January 1787 --- the first of Burn's poems to be published in any periodical. Oddly enough, the earliest recipe for Haggis appeared the same year, in Cookery and Pastry by Susanna Maciver.
The poem is influenced by Fergusson's `Caller Oysters', also written in the Standard Habbie stanza, which Burns made his own.



Fair fa' your honest, sonsie face
Great chieftain o' the puddin-race!
Aboon them a' ye tak your place,
Painch, tripe, or thairm:
Weel are ye wordy of a grace
As lang's my arm.

The groaning trencher there ye fill,
Your hurdies like a distant hill,
Your pin wad help to mend a mill
In time o' need,
While thro' your pores the dews distil
Like amber bead.

His knife see rustic Labour dight
An' cut ye up wi' ready slight
Trenching your gushing entrails bright
Like onie ditch;
And then, O what a glorious sight,
Warm-reekin, rich!

Then, horn for horn, they strech an' strive:
Deil tak the hindmost! on they drive,
Till a' their weel-swall'd kytes belyve,
Are bent like drums;
Then auld Guidman, maist like to rive,
'Bethankit!' hums.

Is there that owre his French ragout
Or olio that wad staw a sow,
Or fricassee wad mak her spew
Wi' perfect sconner,
Looks down wi' sneering, scornfu' view
On sic a dinner?

Poor devil! see him owre his trash,
As feckless as a wither'd rash,
His spindle shank, a guid whip-lash,
His nieve a nit;
Thro' bluidy flood or field to dash,
O how unfit!

But mark the Rustic, haggis-fed,
The trembling earth resounds his tread.
Clap in his walie nieve a blade,
He'll make it whissle;
An' legs, an' arms, an' heads will sned,
Like taps o' thrissle.

Ye Pow'rs wha mak mankind your care,
And dish them out their bill o 'fare,
Auld Scotland wants nae skinking ware watery
That jaups in luggies;
But, if ye wish her gratefu' prayer,
Gie her a Haggis!






From: sarahs mum ® 13/09/2002 05:15:45
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 169280
and some burns suitable for the opening a the scottish parliament...


Robert Burns: A MAN'S A MAN FOR A' THAT


Is there for honest poverty
That hings his head, an a' that? hangs
The coward slave, we pass him by ---
We dare be poor for a' that!
For a' that, an a' that!
Our toils obscure, an a' that,
The rank is but the guinea's stamp,
The man's the gowd for a' that. gold

What though on hamely fare we dine,
Wear hodding grey, an a' that? coarse woollen cloth
Gie fools their silks, and knaves their wine ---
A man's a man for a' that.
For a' that, an a' that,
Their tinsel show, an a' that,
The honest man, tho e'er sae poor,
Is king o men for a' that.

Ye see yon birkie ca'd `a lord,' fellow
Wha struts, an stares, an a' that?
Tho hundreds worship at his word,
He's but a cuif for a' that. fool
For a' that, an a' that,
His ribband, star, an a' that,
The man o' independent mind,
He looks an laughs at a' that.

A prince can mak a belted knight,
A marquis, duke, an a' that!
But an honest man's aboon his might --- above
Guid faith, he mauna fa' that! must not
For a' that, an a' that,
Their dignities, an a' that,
The pith o' sense an pride o' worth,
Are higher rank than a' that.

Then let us pray that come it may
(As come it will for a' that),
That Sense and Worth o'er a' the earth,
Shall bear the gree an a' that. have priority
For a' that, an a' that,
It's coming yet for a' that,
That man to man, the world, o'er
Shall brithers be for a' that.






From: The Phantom Menace ® 13/09/2002 05:25:06
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 169285

Comin' Thro the Rye

Robert Burns

O, Jenny's a' weet, poor body,
Jenny's seldom dry;
She draigl't a' her petticoattie
Comin thro' the rye.

Chorus:
Comin thro the rye, poor body,
Comin thro the rye,
She draigl't a'her petticoatie,
Comin thro the rye!

Gin a body meet a body
Comin thro the rye,
Gin a body kiss a body,
Need a body cry?

Gin a body meet a body
Comin thro the glen,
Gin a body kiss a body,
Need the warld ken?

From: The Phantom Menace ® 13/09/2002 05:27:04
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 169288

A Red, Red Rose

Robert Burns

O my Luve's like a red, red rose,
That's newly sprung in June:
O my Luve's like the melodie
That's sweetly play'd in tune.

As fair art thou, my bonnie lass,
So deep in luve am I;
And I will luve thee still, my Dear,
Till a' the seas gang dry.

Till a' the seas gang dry, my Dear,
And the rocks melt wi' the sun:
And I will luve thee still, my Dear,
While the sands o' life shall run.

And fare thee weel, my only Luve!
And fare thee weel, awhile!
And I will come again, my Luve,
Tho' it were ten thousand mile!


From: sarahs mum ® 13/09/2002 05:30:52
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 169290
Robert Burns: AULD LANG SYNE

CHORUS

For auld syne, my dear, old long ago
For auld lang syne,
We'll tak a cup o' kindness yet,
For auld lang syne.

Should auld acquaintance be forgot,
And never brought to min'?
Should auld acquaintance be forgot,
And days o' lang syne?

We twa hae run about the braes, hillsides
And pou'd the gowans fine; pulled/daisies
But we've wander'd mony a weary foot,
Sin auld lang syne.

We twa hae paidl't i' the burn, waded/stream
Frae morning sun till dine, noon/dinner-time
But seas between us braid hae roar'd broad
Sin auld lang syne.

And there's a hand, my trusty fiere,
And gie's a hand o' thine,
And we'll tak a right guid willie-waught, goodwill drink
For auld lang syne.

And surely ye'll be your pint-stowp, pay for
And surely I'll be mine;
And we'll tak a cup o' kindness yet
For auld lang syne.


(In a note to George Thomson (1793) he describes it as `the old song of the olden times, and which has never been in print, nor even in manuscript, until I took it down from an old man's singing.' )




From: The Phantom Menace ® 15/09/2002 06:10:56
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 171235

Alone

Edgar Allan Poe

From childhood's hour I have not been
As others were; I have not seen
As others saw; I could not bring
My passions from a common spring.
From the same source I have not taken
My sorrow; I could not awaken
My heart to joy at the same tone;
And all I loved, I loved alone.
Then - in my childhood, in the dawn
Of a most stormy life - was drawn
From every depth of good and ill
The mystery which binds me still:
From the torrent, or the fountain,
From the red cliff of the mountain,
From the sun that round me rolled
In its autumn tint of gold,
From the lightning in the sky
As it passed me flying by,
From the thunder and the storm,
And the cloud that took the form
(When the rest of Heaven was blue)
Of a demon in my view.


From: The Phantom Menace ® 15/09/2002 06:12:17
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 171236

'Neath This Tall Pine

Plato

'Neath this tall pine,
That to the zephyr sways and murmurs low,
Mayst thou recline,
While near thee cooling waters flow.
This flute of mine
Shall pipe the softest song it knows to sing,
And to thy charmèd eyelids sleep will bring.


From: The Phantom Menace ® 15/09/2002 06:18:11
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 171237

Uphill

Christina Rossetti

Does the road wind up-hill all the way?
Yes, to the very end.
Will the day's journey take the whole long day?
From morn to night, my friend.

But is there for the night a resting-place?
A roof for when the slow dark hours begin.
May not the darkness hide it from my face?
You cannot miss that inn.

Shall I meet other wayfarers at night?
Those who have gone before.
Then must I knock, or call when just in sight?
They will not keep you standing at that door.

Shall I find comfort, travel-sore and weak?
Of labour you shall find the sum.
Will there be beds for me and all who seek?
Yea, beds for all who come.


From: Woman:) ® 15/09/2002 09:27:27
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 171267
Thank you Phantom the Poet:))) what a trio to sing in Sunday :)))

Alone by E.A. Poe: I wonder how many of us will identify as deeply with this poem as I do...I bet quite a few!!;-)...Plato Poetry by Plato!!! the well known wrestler ...and the divine Christina Rossetti asks: "...Does the road wind up-hill all the way? ...Will the day's journey take the whole long day?... well, with such a start to it, I, for one, look forward to today's journey:)

a graceful little epitaph on "Stella", ascribed to Plato, which Shelley has translated like so:

"Thou wert the morning star among the living,
Till thy fair light had fled;
Now having died, thou art as Hosperus, giving
New splendour to the dead."







From: Woman:) ® 15/09/2002 09:30:32
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 171269
Some lovely stuff to be discovered in the "Good Night" threads:

From: boxhead ® 12/09/2002 23:35:26
Subject: re: Goodnight post id: 169040


Lullabye

when the sky has fallen
like a blanket on your shoulder
and the moon is like a mother
looking over you forever
and the dawn is so famaliar
you were meant to be together
like a fog around a mountain - forever

so softly - so sweetly
surrounding you completely
sing you a lullabye - a lullabye to you
lullabye - a lullabye to you

when your breathing is the wind
and your crying is the rain
well i know you will remember
because the music is forever
the living of a lover -
and the loving of another
like a sister to a brother
like a father to a mother

so softly - so sweetly
surrounding you completely
sing you a lullabye - a lullabye to you
lullabye - a lullabye to you


Performed by Concrete Blonde



From: sarahs mum ® 17/09/2002 03:31:20
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 172834
To the Weaver's Gin Ye Go
Ein Weber-Lied von Robert Burns (1788).

1. My heart was once as blythe and free, as simmer days are lang. But a bonnie Westlin weaver lad has gart me change my sang;

Chorus: Tae the weavers gin ye go, fair maids, tae the weavers gin ye go; I tell ye richt, gang ne'er at nicht, tae the weavers gin ye go.

2. My mither sent me to the town to warp a plaiden wab; but the weary, weary warpin o't has gart me sigh and sab.

3. A bonie, westlin weaver lad sat working at his loom; he took my heart as wi' a net in every knot and thrum.

4. I sat beside my warpin-wheel, and ay I ca'd it roun'; but every shot and every knock, my heart it gae a stoun.

5. The moon was sinking in the west wi' visage pale and wan, as my bonie, westlin weaver lad convoy'd me thro' the glen.

6. But what was said, or what was done, shame fa' me gin I tell; but oh! I fear the country soon will ken as wheel's mysel!

http://home.t-online.de/home/pheld/1schott2.htm


From: Richard C ® 17/09/2002 03:36:30
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 172836
The foggy, foggy dew
Folk text
Set by Benjamin Britten (1913-1976)


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


When I was a bachelor I lived all alone
and worked at the weaver's trade
And the only, only thing that I ever did wrong,
was to woo a fair young maid.
I wooed her in the winter time, and in the summer too . . .
And the only, only thing I did that was wrong
was to keep her from the foggy, foggy dew.

One night she came to my bedside when I lay fast asleep,
She laid her head upon my bed and she began to weep.
She sighed, she cried, she damn'd near died,
she said: "What shall I do?"
So I hauled her into bed and I covered up her head,
just to keep her from the foggy, foggy dew.

Oh, I am a bachelor and I live with my son,
and we work at the weaver's trade.
And ev'ry single time that I look into his eyes,
he reminds me of the fair young maid.
He reminds me of the winter time, and of the summer too,
And of the many, many times that I held her in my arms,
just to keep her from the foggy, foggy dew.





I remember hearing a record of this (an old 78) in my extreme youth (like about 4) sung by Peter Pears accompanied by Benjamin Britten himself on the piano.

From: The Phantom Menace ® 17/09/2002 08:28:53
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 172892

Hi Woman:)

Poetry by Plato!!! the well known wrestler ...

I know many wrestle with Plato... I never knew he ever wrestled back!

From: Woman:) ® 17/09/2002 08:37:52
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 172898
I know many wrestle with Plato... I never knew he ever wrestled back!

*lol* @ The Phantom:) HI!:)

*schoolmarmish voice*:

Plato was a well-known wrestler, and the name by which we know him today was his "ring name". Plato means broad or flat: presumably the former referring to his shoulders (some naughty scholars have suggested that his forehead was flat ;-)).

At his birth Plato was called "Aristocles".

*schoolmarmish voice off*

Plato was also a little better at mathematics than I am, or so they say ;-)

:):)



From: Zarkov ® 17/09/2002 08:39:38
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 172899
Plato had a great teacher, I wish I was in his class >:)

From: Woman:) ® 17/09/2002 08:44:07
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 172904
Plato had a great teacher, I wish I was in his class >:)

and we all know, what happened to Socrates..eh?;-) I reckon hemlock is still being offered today, metaphorically speaking, of course ;-)

From: The Phantom Menace ® 23/09/2002 05:42:28
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 179864

John Cain Avenue

Lyrics by David Bridie

In the houses by the railway line
All the people in my street
All tending to their gardens
We keep them all bright and neat

all bright and neat

all bright and neat


We all have our own concerns
Down in our little worlds
We can't worry about the global things
Just those mundane and small

mundane and small

mundane and small


Take a walk down to the railway station
See the young mothers stand in line
On any Wednesday you can hear
Those grim adventure tales go round

they go rounds

and around


Just living in our backstreets
We talk about the sky
And how the leaves will fall down soon
Yeah, we watch the days go by

and the winter sky

and the days go by


Yeah, that's what we all talk about
The neighbours, Mark and me
Nothing too important
Just how simple things can be

oh how they can be

oh how they can be

oh how they can be

yeah how they can be


From: The Phantom Menace ® 23/09/2002 05:50:40
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 179865

Aberystwyth

Lyrics by David Bridie

So cold in this here mountainside
Theres's black sheep upon the hills
The mist just hangs and settles there
And you're so far away

I stayed awake the whole night long
'cause the cider's in my brain
And the sky's the lightest shade of blue
'cause that's just how I feel

'Cause I'm heading for the Western coast
To Aberystwyth town
For that's the place the great wind blows
As I walk past the old burial ground

Bright fire bombs burn the houses down
'Cause that's where the English stay
And who am I to say that's wrong
'Cause it's payback, the Welsh way

'Cause I'm heading for the Western coast
To Aberystwyth town
For that's the place the great wind blows
As I walk past the old burial ground

'Cause I'm heading for the Western coast
To Aberystwyth town
For that's the place the great wind blows
As I walk past the old burial ground


From: Woman:) ® 25/09/2002 07:00:26
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 182294
From: sarahs mum ® 25/09/2002 06:45:53

Subject: re: Chat - 20/9/2002 post id: 182287

does anybody know where we have hidden the poetry thread?

i checked under the earlier posts button but i couldn't find it




From: jj ® 25/09/2002 07:02:39
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 182299
g'day woman ... thanks for that ... O love poetry.
It says all the important stuff for me ... to me ... now I really have to go ... jj

From: sarahs mum ® 25/09/2002 07:09:30
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 182303
tonight starts sarahs musical theatre performance season of two nights. here is her little solo for the poetry thread.


Les Miserables

Cosette - Castle on a Cloud
[Young Cosette is working as a drudge in the Thénardier's inn at Montfermeil]

[YOUNG COSETTE]


There is a castle on a cloud,
I like to go there in my sleep,
Aren't any floors for me to sweep,
Not in my castle on a cloud.

There is a room that's full of toys,
There are a hundred boys and girls,
Nobody shouts or talks too loud,
Not in my castle on a cloud.

There is a lady all in white,
Holds me and sings a lullaby,
She's nice to see and she's soft to touch,
She says "Cosette, I love you very much."

I know a place where no one's lost,
I know a place where no one cries,
Crying at all is not allowed,
Not in my castle on a cloud.






From: Man ® 28/09/2002 22:12:59
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 186548
She Walks in Beauty

SHE walks in beauty like the night
Of cloudless climes and starry skies,
And all that's best of dark and bright
Meet in her aspect and her eyes;
Thus mellowed to the tender light
Which heaven to gaudy day denies.

One ray the more, one shade the less
Had half impaired the nameless grace
Which waves in every raven tress
Or softly lightens o'er her face,
Where thoughts serenely sweet express
How pure, how dear their dwelling place.

And on that cheek and o'er that brow
So soft, so calm yet eloquent,
The smiles that win, the tints that glow
But tell of days in goodness spent
A mind at peace with all below,
A heart whose love is innocent.

Lord Byron, (George Gordon)


From: boxhead ® 29/09/2002 03:01:39
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 186678

Something To Believe In

I believe that reality's gone
Disillusion's real
I believe that morality's gone
And there's nothing to feel
If you take the sacred things
The things that we hold dear
Empty promise is all you'll find
So give me something
Something to believe in
I believe in a changing of the guard
Put our feet on the ground
See it happen in your own background
Everything breaks down
Do you accept what you are told
Without even thinking
Throw it all and make your own
And give me something
Something to believe in
Where they lead
You will follow
Well I guess that's just the way it goes
And if you look away
You'll be doing what they say
And if you look alive
You'll be singled out and tried
If you take home anything
Let it be your will to think
The more cynical you become
The better off you'll be

©2000 The Offspring



"Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it."
Andre Gide.

From: The Phantom Menace ® 29/09/2002 08:23:02
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 186707

Autumn Song

Margurite Kingman

The firelight glows,
The embers sigh,
We dream and
Doze--
The cat and I.
The kitten purrs,
The kettle sings,
The heart remembers
Little things.


From: The Phantom Menace ® 29/09/2002 08:32:48
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 186708

The Mad Gardener's Song

Lewis Carroll

He thought he saw an Elephant,
That practised on a fife:
He looked again, and found it was
A letter from his wife.
'At length I realise,' he said,
The bitterness of Life!'

He thought he saw a Buffalo
Upon the chimney-piece:
He looked again, and found it was
His Sister's Husband's Niece.
'Unless you leave this house,' he said,
"I'll send for the Police!'

He thought he saw a Rattlesnake
That questioned him in Greek:
He looked again, and found it was
The Middle of Next Week.
'The one thing I regret,' he said,
'Is that it cannot speak!'

He thought he saw a Banker's Clerk
Descending from the bus:
He looked again, and found it was
A Hippopotamus.
'If this should stay to dine,' he said,
'There won't be much for us!'

He thought he saw a Kangaroo
That worked a coffee-mill:
He looked again, and found it was
A Vegetable-Pill.
'Were I to swallow this,' he said,
'I should be very ill!'

He thought he saw a Coach-and-Four
That stood beside his bed:
He looked again, and found it was
A Bear without a Head.
'Poor thing,' he said, 'poor silly thing!
It's waiting to be fed!'

He thought he saw an Albatross
That fluttered round the lamp:
He looked again, and found it was
A Penny-Postage Stamp.
'You'd best be getting home,' he said:
'The nights are very damp!'

He thought he saw a Garden-Door
That opened with a key:
He looked again, and found it was
A Double Rule of Three:
'And all its mystery,' he said,
'Is clear as day to me!'

He thought he saw a Argument
That proved he was the Pope:
He looked again, and found it was
A Bar of Mottled Soap.
'A fact so dread,' he faintly said,
'Extinguishes all hope!'


From: Woman:) ® 29/09/2002 10:39:55
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 186761
From: Zarkov ® 29/09/2002
Subject: re: Credibility post id: 186703


T R U T H

So you think you know
The arrow in your bow
Your search has ended
The ultimate truth has surrended

And what of those others as well
Who agree that what is, is what they tell
Surely the truth can be found
Or is that none are sound

And the phoenix flys and the phoenix burns
And none of us mortals ever learns
That all we know is only more or less
An approximation to the ultimate guess

For our truth depends on what we believe
And what we believe is what we perceive
Through senses that are interpreted much higher
And coloured with our desire

Truth, it could be yours, it could be mine
But we should keep searching all the time
To really know no matter what the cost
Even if all we held before is lost

This of course is quite a task
Because the truth always wears a mask
It slips and slides amongst the facts
And never ever leaves a track

Just when you are sure you know
Maybe someone great has told you so
It's then be sure that you are lost
Because the truth can not be bought at any cost

You need to honestly compare
All you know in here with out there
And if there is a chink of doubt
Then be prepared to clean in here out

That is the way of truth
We only get closer when reality
Is seen with increasing clarity
On that you can always depend
But there is never ever any end

Zarkov



From: Woman:) ® 30/09/2002 00:04:13
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 187232

Is it still Sunday?;-)

(Dont know the author.....Dorothy Parker? ...perhaps)



========================


Epitaph for a Darling Lady

All her hours were yellow sands,
Blown in foolish whorls and tassels;
Slipping warmly through her hands;
Patted into little castles.

Shiny day on shiny day
Tumbled in a rainbow clutter,
As she flipped them all away,
Sent them spinning down the gutter.

Leave for her a red young rose,
Go your way, and save your pity;
She is happy, for she knows
That her dust is very pretty.

=========================




From: lubes ® 30/09/2002 00:05:34
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 187234
Dot Parker had a budgie...she named it "Onan".
(Because it spilled it's seed.....)
:-)

From: Woman:) ® 05/10/2002 03:01:03
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 192993

Sortie
by Pedram


- A billion brothers and sisters are starving.
What do I do? Order pizza. Home delivered.

- Curable disease goes uncured across the globe.
What do I do? Take aspirin for my headache. Self inflicted.

- 100 000 are strangled to death by trade sanctions.
What do I do? Go shopping. For things I don't need.

- 5000 are folded into rubble in an instant.
What do I do?
Watch the replays. Write a poem.

- My society is unjust and corrupt.
What do I do? Vote once every three years. In a safe seat.

- My capacity to see exceeds my capacity to act.
What do I do? Sortie in a glass canoe. Return to an island of Zen surfaces.

Can you hear the distant roar? Out there?
The sound of capacity confliction.
An aquatic ostrich, my head under water.
I practice holding my breath.


From: boxhead ® 06/10/2002 19:53:00
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 194824

Just keep quiet and nobody will notice

There is one thing that ought to be taught in all the colleges,
Which is that people ought to be taught not to go around always making apologies.
I don't mean the kind of apologies people make when they run over you or borrow five dollars or step on your feet,
Because I think that is sort of sweet;
No, I object to one kind of apology alone,
Which is when people spend their time and yours apologizing for everything they own.
You go to their house for a meal,
And they apologize because the anchovies aren't caviar or the partridge is veal;
They apologize privately for the crudeness of the other guests,
And they apologize publicly for their wife's housekeeping or their husband's jests;
If they give you a book by Dickens they apologize because it isn't by Scott,
And if they take you to the teahter, the apologize for the acting and the dialogue and the plot;
They contain more milk of human kindness than the most capacious diary can,
But if you are from out of town they apologize for everything local and if you are a foreigner they apologize for everything American.
I dread these apologizers even as I am depicting them,
I shudder as I think of the hours that must be spend in contradicting them,
Because you are very rude if you let them emerge from an argument victorious,
And when they say something of theirs is awful, it is your duty to convince them politely that it is magnificent and glorious,
And what particularly bores me with them,
Is that half the time you have to politely contradict them when you rudely agree with them,
So I think there is one rule every host and hostess ought to keep with the comb and nail file and bicarbonate and aromatic spirits on a handy shelf,
Which is don't spoil the denouement by telling the guests everything is terrible, but let them have the thrill of finding it out for themselves.
Ogden Nash


"You can't learn anything new if you limit yourself to verifying what you already know."
Mel Acheson.

From: boxhead ® 06/10/2002 19:54:05
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 194826

Reflection on a Wicked World

Purity
Is obscurity.
Ogden Nash


"You can't learn anything new if you limit yourself to verifying what you already know."
Mel Acheson.

From: boxhead ® 06/10/2002 19:55:02
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 194829

Poets

Poets aren't very useful
Because they aren't consumeful or produceful.
Ogden Nash


"You can't learn anything new if you limit yourself to verifying what you already know."
Mel Acheson.

From: PeterT ® 06/10/2002 19:57:26
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 194830
Some primal termite chomped on wood
And tasted it and found it good
So that is why your cousin May
Fell through the parlour floor today.

Ogden Nash.

From: boxhead ® 06/10/2002 19:57:55
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 194831

The Purist

I give you now Professor Twist,
A conscientious scientist,
Trustees exclaimed, "He never bungles!"
And sent him off to distant jungles.
Camped on a tropic riverside,
One day he missed his loving bride.
She had, the guide informed him later,
Been eaten by an alligator.
Professor Twist could not but smile.
"You mean," he said, "a crocodile."
Ogden Nash


"You can't learn anything new if you limit yourself to verifying what you already know."
Mel Acheson.

From: jj ® 06/10/2002 20:26:19
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 194852


to be read with "The Boy Who Cried Wolf"


Matilda - Who Told Lies And Was Burned To Death
(from: http://www.bbc.co.uk/arts/poetry/belloc.shtml)

Matilda told such Dreadful Lies,
It made one Gasp and Stretch one’s Eyes;

Her Aunt, who, from her Earliest Youth,
Had kept a Strict Regard for Truth,
Attempted to Believe Matilda:
The effort very nearly killed her,
And would have done so, had not She
Discovered this Infirmity.

For once, towards the Close of Day,
Matilda, growing tired of play,
And finding she was left alone,
Went tiptoe to the Telephone
And summoned the Immediate Aid
Of London’s Noble Fire-Brigade.

Within an hour the Gallant Band
Were pouring in on every hand,
From Putney, Hackney Downs and Bow.
With Courage high and Hearts a-glow,
They galloped, roaring through the Town,
‘Matilda’s House is Burning Down!’

Inspired by British Cheers and Loud
Proceeding from the Frenzied Crowd,
They ran their ladders through a score
Of windows on the Ball Room Floor;
And took Peculiar Pains to Souse
The Pictures up and down the House,
Until Matilda’s Aunt succeeded
In showing them they were not needed;
And even then she had to pay
To get the men to go away!

It happened that a few Weeks later
Her Aunt was off to the Theatre
To see that Interesting Play
The Second Mrs Tanqueray.

She had refused to take her Niece
To hear this Entertaining Piece:
A Deprivation Just and Wise
To Punish her for Telling Lies.

That Night a Fire did break out -
You should have heard Matilda Shout!
You should have heard her Scream and Bawl,
And throw the window up and call
To People passing in the Street -
(The rapidly increasing Heat
Encouraging her to obtain
Their confidence) - but all in vain!

For every time She shouted ‘Fire!’
They only answered ‘Little Liar!’
And therefore when her Aunt returned,
Matilda, and the House, were Burned.


Hilaire Belloc.


From: The Phantom Menace ® 13/10/2002 18:21:59
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 202403

Autumn Day

Rainer Maria Rilke

Translated by Stephen Mitchell


Lord: it is time. The huge summer has gone by.
Now overlap the sundials with your shadows,
and on the meadows let the wind go free.

Command the fruits to swell on tree and vine;
grant them a few more warm transparent days,
urge them on to fulfillment then, and press
the final sweetness into the heavy wine.

Whoever has no house now, will never have one.
Whoever is alone will stay alone,
will sit, read, write long letters through the
evening,
and wander the boulevards, up and down,
restlessly, while the dry leaves are blowing.


From: The Phantom Menace ® 13/10/2002 18:26:43
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 202405

Ignorant Before The Heavens Of My Life

Rainer Maria Rilke

Translated by Stephen Mitchell


Ignorant before the heavens of my life,
I stand and gaze in wonder. Oh the vastness
of the stars. Their rising and descent. How still.
As if I didn't exist. Do I have any
share in this? Have I somehow dispensed with
their pure effect? Does my blood's ebb and flow
change with their changes? Let me put aside
every desire, every relationship
except this one, so that my heart grows used to
its farthest spaces. Better that it live
fully aware, in the terror of its stars, than
as if protected, soothed by what is near.


From: Toni D ® 14/10/2002 00:11:34
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 202637
But 'tis strange:
And oftentimes, to win us to our harm,
The instruments of darkness tell us truths,
With us with honest trifles, to betray's
In deepest consequence.
******
Furtum ingeniosus ad omne,
Qui facere assueret, patriae non degener artis,
Candida de nigris, et de candentibus atra
******
So may the outward shows be least themselves;
The world is still deceived with ornament.
In law, what plea so tainted and corrupt
But being seasoned with a gracious voice,
Obscures the show of evil? In religion,
What damned error but some sober brow
Will bless it and approve it with a text,
Hiding the grossness with fair ornament?
******
Astutam vapido servas sub pectore vulpem
******
Thou speak'st like him's untutored to repeat:
Who makes the fairest show means most deceit.
******
Wir betrugen und schmeicheln niemanden durch so feine Kunstgriffe als uns selbst
******
Altera manu fert lapidem, altera panem ostentat
******
Hinc nunc praemium est, qui recta prava faciunt


From: Woman:) ® 20/10/2002 05:39:15
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 210197
Ecce Homo
by Friedrich Nietzsche

Ja! Ich weiß, woher ich stamme!
Yes! I know from whence I spring
Ungesättigt gleich der Flamme
Unsated like the flame
Glühe und verzehr’ ich mich.
Do I glow and eat myself
Licht wird alles, was ich fasse,
To light turns everything I grasp
Kohle alles, was ich lasse.
To cinder everything I leave
Flamme bin ich sicherlich!
Yes, I sure am flame.

(my translation)



From: The Phantom Menace ® 20/10/2002 06:37:13
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 210209

Is It For Now Or For Always

Philip Larkin

Is it for now or for always,
The world hangs on a stalk?
Is it a trick or a trysting-place,
The woods we have found to walk?

Is it a mirage or miracle,
Your lips that lift at mine:
And the suns like a juggler's juggling-balls,
Are they a sham or a sign?

Shine out, my sudden angel,
Break fear with breast and brow,
I take you now and for always,
For always is always now.


From: The Phantom Menace ® 20/10/2002 07:06:27
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 210213

Next, Please

Philip Larkin

Always too eager for the future, we
Pick up bad habits of expectancy.
Something is always approaching; every day
Till then we say,

Watching from a bluff the tiny, clear
Sparkling armada of promises draw near.
How slow they are! And how much time they waste,
Refusing to make haste!

Yet still they leave us holding wretched stalks
Of disappointment, for, though nothing balks
Each big approach, leaning with brasswork prinked,
Each rope distinct,

Flagged, and the figurehead wit golden tits
Arching our way, it never anchors; it's
No sooner present than it turns to past.
Right to the last

We think each one will heave to and unload
All good into our lives, all we are owed
For waiting so devoutly and so long.
But we are wrong:

Only one ship is seeking us, a black-
Sailed unfamiliar, towing at her back
A huge and birdless silence. In her wake
No waters breed or break.

From: jj ® 20/10/2002 07:29:25
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 210237
yes ... a heartfelt yes.

From: Woman:) ® 20/10/2002 07:48:16
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 210241
Yes!! Darkly exhilarating!!

I heard it's your birthday today Phantom the Poet:) Cannot find a birthday poem in the hurry, so I'll try to post this - copied from one of SM's postings - perhaps it works:)

Happy Birthday to our Phantom Poet :):):)





From: The Phantom Menace ® 20/10/2002 08:14:40
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 210255

What? Who?

I don't have a birthday! ;)

:)

From: Meg ® 26/10/2002 16:20:24
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 218795
I love this song even though it's not really my normal fare. I think it's because of the italicized lyrics...

Drops of Jupiter

Lyrics by Train

Now that she's back in the atmosphere
With drops of Jupiter in her hair, hey, hey
She acts like summer and walks like rain
Reminds me that there's time to change, hey, hey
Since the return from her stay on the moon
She listens like spring and she talks like June, hey, hey

Tell me did you sail across the sun
Did you make it to the Milky Way to see the lights all faded
And that heaven is overrated

Tell me, did you fall for a shooting star
One without a permanent scar
And did you miss me while you were looking at yourself out there

Now that she's back from that soul vacation
Tracing her way through the constellation, hey, hey
She checks out Mozart while she does tae-bo
Reminds me that there's time to grow, hey, hey

Now that she's back in the atmosphere
I'm afraid that she might think of me as plain ol' Jane
Told a story about a man who is too afraid to fly so he never did land

Tell me did the wind sweep you off your feet
Did you finally get the chance to dance along the light of day
And head back to the Milky Way
And tell me, did Venus blow your mind
Was it everything you wanted to find
And did you miss me while you were looking for yourself out there

Can you imagine no love, pride, deep-fried chicken
Your best friend always sticking up for you even when I know you're wrong
Can you imagine no first dance, freeze dried romance five-hour phone conversation
The best soy latte that you ever had . . . and me


Tell me did the wind sweep you off your feet
Did you finally get the chance to dance along the light of day
And head back toward the Milky Way


http://www.trainline.com/ss_lyrics_dropsofjupiter.html

From: The Phantom Menace ® 31/10/2002 09:59:11
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 224209
Corpus Christi Carol

Anonymous

Lully, lulley; lully, lulley;
The faucon hath born my make away.

He bare hym up, he bare hym down;
He bare hym into an orchard brown.

In that orchard ther was an hall,
That was hangid with purpill and pall.

And in that hall ther was a bede;
Hit was hangid with gold so rede.

And yn that bed ther lythe a knyght,
His wowndes bledying day and nyght.

By that bedes side ther kneleth a may,
And she wepeth both nyght and day.

And by that beddes side ther stondith a ston,
'Corpus Christi' wretyn theron.

From: woman:) ® 31/10/2002 10:15:30
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 224232
Thank you The Phantom Menace:) for bringing up the current Poetry Thread again:)))

My Dream

This is my dream,
It is my own dream,
I dreamt it.
I dreamt that my hair was kempt.
Then I dreamt that my true love unkempt it.

(Odgden Nash)




From: woman:) ® 31/10/2002 10:18:31
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 224239

To Put One Brick Upon Another

To put one brick upon another,
Add a third and then a forth,
Leaves no time to wonder whether
What you do has any worth.

But to sit with bricks around you
While the winds of heaven bawl
Weighing what you should or can do
Leaves no doubt of it at all.
 
(Philip Larkin)

;-)


From: The Phantom Menace ® 03/11/2002 21:14:00
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 228866
Dedicated to all those who, wherever they are, even if that be the house where they were born, are "not from 'round here".



They'll say, "She must be from another country"

Imtiaz Dharker

When I can’t comprehend
why they’re burning books
or slashing paintings,
when they can’t bear to look
at god’s own nakedness
when they ban the film
and gut the seats to stop the play
and I ask why
they just smile and say,
"She must be
from another country."

When I speak on the phone
and the vowel sounds are off
when he consonants are hard
and they should be soft,
they'll catch on at once
they'll pin it down
they'll explain it right away
to their own satisfaction,
they'll cluck their tongues
and say,
"She must be
from another country."

When my mouth goes up
instead of down,
when I wear a tablecloth
to go to town,
when they suspect I'm black
or hear I'm gay
they won't be surprised,
they'll bite their lips
and say,
"She must be
from another country"

When I eat up the olives
and spit out the pits
when I yawn at the opera
in the tragic bits
when I pee in the vineyard
as if it were Bombay,
flaunting my bare ass
covering my face
laughing through my hands
they'll turn away,
shake their heads quite sadly,
"She doesn't know any better,"
they'll say,
"She must be
from another country"

Maybe there is a country
where all of us live,
all us of freaks
who aren't able to give
our loyalty to fat old fools,
the crooks and thugs
who wear the uniform
that gives them the right
to wave a flag,
puff out their chests,
put their feet on our necks,
and break their own rules.

But from where we are
it doesn’t look like a country,
It’s more like the cracks
that grow between borders
behind their backs.
That’s where I live.
And I’ll be happy to say
"I never learned your customs.
I don’t remember your language
or know your ways.
I must be
from another country"




Englishman in New York

Lyrics by Sting

I don't drink coffee I take tea my dear
I like my toast done on the side
And you can hear it in my accent when I talk
I'm an Englishman in New York

See me walking down Fifth Avenue
A walking cane here at my side
I take it everywhere I walk
I'm an Englishman in New York

I'm an alien
I'm a legal alien
I'm an Englishman in New York
I'm an alien
I'm a legal alien
I'm an Englishman in New York

If "manners maketh man" as someone said
Then he's the hero of the day
It takes a man to suffer ignorance and smile
Be yourself no matter what they say

I'm an alien
I'm a legal alien
I'm an Englishman in New York
I'm an alien
I'm a legal alien
I'm an Englishman in New York

Modesty, propriety can lead to notoriety
You could end up as the only one
Gentleness, sobriety are rare in this society
At night a candle's brighter than the sun

Takes more than combat gear to make a man
Takes more than license for a gun
Confront your enemies, avoid them when you can
A gentleman will walk but never run

If "manners maketh man" as someone said
Then he's the hero of the day
It takes a man to suffer ignorance and smile
Be yourself no matter what they say

I'm an alien
I'm a legal alien
I'm an Englishman in New York
I'm an alien
I'm a legal alien
I'm an Englishman in New York

From: Langy ® 03/11/2002 21:15:30
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 228867
Congratulations on your performance, Woodie. You did us all proud even if we didn't see you :-)



From: Echelon 8 ® 03/11/2002 21:48:54
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 228900
For the Ice Princess. Her life, her quilts, her scars. For all the Good she did, regardless.


Stitches.


Stitches? Evil dwells so close at times, it goes unseen, unfelt.

Stitched over with time and fear, yet ice does sometimes melt.

How can such a scented rose grow from such a poisoned patch?

How can such a shapely swan from such an ugly duckling hatch?

Stitches?

Stitch a patch of years and tears over that mean unloving test.
Stitch your wounded heart with thread of love and jagged pain divest.
Stitch a silver shining soul into the Lord's loving starry breast.
Stitch a life so bright and good into the host of the most blessed.

Stitch a quilt of living panels, rich and wise, and angel-pure.
Comfort us with that coverlet and our broken spirits cure.
It's threads of love that bind us, and seams of pain obscure.
You humbled us with your holy light, of that you can be sure.











From: woman:) ® 03/11/2002 22:58:23
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 228982
...Dedicated to all those who, wherever they are, even if that be the house where they were born, are "not from 'round here"...

Awwww, the Phantom Menace. There are quite a few of them around here too, thankfully!!:)

They'll say, "She must be from another country" That title really rings a bell for me;-) I shall look out for Imtiaz Dharker

========

Hi Echelon 8:))) Welcome back!

For the Ice Princess. Her life, her quilts, her scars. For all the Good she did, regardless.


Stitches.


from the quill of Paul H.?;-)

===========

I came across this little gem...does someone know its author?

Don't know about the people

Approaching my village:

Don't know about the people,
but all the scarecrows
are crooked.

:)








From: woman:) ® 03/11/2002 23:15:24
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 228998
From: Bubblecar ® 11/05/2002
>Subject: Reality in the Dark Discussion Thread post id: 38485


Day-to-day Reality,
with cups of tea
& wine & Brie,
& sweet congeniality,
Is ultimate enough for me,
& those you'd call
"the likes of me"

The universe is big & bare
& much more emptier than air,
It may be ancient & all that
But doesn't even wear a hat

The cosmos bold & naked spins
& dwarfs our hopes & fears & sins
& mocks the virtues of our kind -
But doesn't even have a mind

But human beans, so small & cute,
Though humbler than the infinute,
We do have minds & thoughts & dreams,
& love & hate, & Shortbread Creams

=========

I miss Bubblecar


From: sarahs mum ® 03/11/2002 23:19:57
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 229005
i miss bubblecar.
i know he's out there..just over there..if i left the mountain i might even bump into him..


From: woman:) ® 03/11/2002 23:28:05
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 229025
sarahs mum:) i know he's out there..just over there..if i left the mountain i might even bump into him... if you do could you please let him know that for some of us (many I think) his departure left a big hole.

==========

My last one for this Sunday: I found it in a battered old second hand anthology...and it moved me...reading it out loud makes it very haunting.


Dreams in German

by David Martin

Undated dreams: the sea of Heringsdorf,
The Brocken behind Schierke and the snow
That falls like sugar on the Christmas trees
They're selling in the square. It's hard to know
This land in English. What is Grunewald,
And what is Weissensee and what the name
I seek for her who lies there? All my keys
Are lost. Die Schlüssel sind verloren. Do I still,
As I return to Brandenburg at night,
Declare my landmarks in the tongue I knew,
Say Deutscher Wald when I'm with Rosenrot
Deep in the forest? No, for life went ill
With all my fairies, and in nightmares only
I call by name the giant Schlagetot
Who killed my people and stays close to me
Wherever I may sleep. Yes, not until
He dies shall I go home to childhood. Say it now:
Say Rosenrot, Schneeweisschen, how they came
Tief aus dem Walde, and how Schlagetot
Schlug alle tot and took my book away...
Snow White and Rose Red, they are not the same,
Stretch out your hand and gather what is left:
The frieze upon the nursery wall, a light
Kept covered on the landing, or the face
Of Lotte in Charlottenburg that day:
But in translation, like a gazeteer.
Du liebes Land! To call my country dear
Still burns the mouth. But Buchenwald flows right
From German lips into my English ear.




From: boxhead ® 16/11/2002 14:18:28
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 245568

Walking in London

this deja-vu feeling
i know quite well
this psychic confusion
this living hell
a cosmic connection
with someone somewhere
is coming from your direction
i swear, i swear

and i've been running all this time
and i'm running out of places to go
and i am oh so sick and tired of every face that i know
everything i do, everything i say
everything in my head, every night, every day
i've been east, i've been west, i've been north, i've been south
i feel your arms, i hear your voice, i feel your hands, i kiss your mouth
and i am walking in london
and you are watching me walk
talking italian
and you are hearing me talk
singing in sydney
and you were sitting right there
feeling you in me - everywhere, everywhere

an invisible touch
on the back of my neck
fingerprints lingering
warm breath
i'm either going insane
or i'm a human wire
receiving a signal
desire, desire

and i've been running all this time
and i'm running out of places to go
and i am oh so sick and tired of every face that i know
everything i do, everything i say
everything in my head, every night, every day
i've been east, i've been west, i've been north, i've been south
i hear your voice, i see your face, i feel your hands, i kiss your mouth
and i'm walking in london
and you are watching me walk
talking italian
and you are hearing me talk
singing in sydney
and you were sitting right there
feeling you in me - everywhere, everywhere


i've been east, i've been west, i've been north, i've been south
i've been east, i've been west, i've been north, i've been south
i've been east, i've been west, i've been north, i've been south
i feel your arms, i hear your voice, i feel your hands, i kiss your mouth

and i'm walking in london
and you are watching me walk
talking italian
and you are hearing me talk
singing in sydney
and you were sitting right there
feeling you in me - everywhere, everywhere


Concrete Blonde


From: Woman:) ® 18/11/2002 00:35:44
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 247122
Since it is still Sunday somewhere...in London (Hi TPM:))and even in Perth (Hi Pumpkin Head:)) *points down to the LORCA thread*) and since someone started a thread about Garcia Lorca, one of the greatest poets...here is a little pearl...to get its full beauty, one should really *hear* it in *Spanish*... if you have a chance to do that - even if you dont know Spanish...it's haunting....

Lament for Ignacio Sanchez Mejias
(fragment)

1. Cogida and death


At five in the afternoon.
It was exactly five in the afternoon.
A boy brought the white sheet
at five in the afternoon.
A frail of lime ready prepared
at five in the afternoon.
The rest was death, and death alone
at five in the afternoon.

The wind carried away the cottonwool
at five in the afternoon.
And the oxide scattered crystal and nickel
at five in the afternoon.
Now the dove and the leopard wrestle
at five in the afternoon.
And a thigh with a desolate horn
at five in the afternoon.
The bass-string struck up
at five in the afternoon.
Arsenic bells and smoke
at five in the afternoon.
Groups of silence in the corners
at five in the afternoon.
And the bull alone with a high heart!
At five in the afternoon.
When the sweat of snow was coming
at five in the afternoon,
when the bull ring was covered in iodine
at five in the afternoon.
Death laid eggs in the wound
at five in the afternoon.
At five in the afternoon.
Exactly at five o'clock in the afternoon.

A coffin on wheels in his bed
at five in the afternoon.
Bones and flutes resound in his ears
at five in the afternoon.
Now the bull was bellowing through his forehead
at five in the afternoon.
The room was iridescent with agony
at five in the afternoon.
In the distance the gangrene now comes
at five in the afternoon.
Horn of the lily through green groins
at five in the afternoon.
The wounds were burning like suns
at five in the afternoon,
and the crowd was breaking the windows
at five in the afternoon.
At five in the afternoon.
Ah, that fatal five in the afternoon!
It was five by all the clocks!
It was five in the shade of the afternoon!

2. The Spilled Blood

I will not see it!

Tell the moon to come
for I do not want to see the blood
of Ignacio on the sand.


I will not see it!

The moon wide open.
Horse of still clouds,
and the grey bull ring of dreams
with willows in the barreras.


I will not see it!

Let my memory kindle!
Warm the jasmines
of such minute whiteness!


I will not see it!

The cow of the ancient world
passed her sad tongue
over a snout of blood
spilled on the sand,
and the bulls of Guissando,
partly death and partly stone,
bellowed like two centuries
sated with treading the earth.
No.
I do not want to see it!
I will not see it!


Ignacio goes up the tiers
with all his death on his shoulders.
He sought for the dawn
but the dawn was no more.
He seeks for his confident profile
and the dream bewilders him.
He sought for his beautiful body
and encountered his opened blood.
I will not see it!
I do not want to hear it spurt
each time with less strength:
that spurt that illuminates
the tiers of seats, and spills
over the corduroy and the leather
of a thirsty multitude.
Who shouts that I should come near!
Do not ask me to see it!


His eyes did not close
when he saw the horns near,
but the terrible mothers
lifted their heads.
And across the ranches,
an air of secret voices rose,
shouting to celestial bulls,
herdsmen of pale mist.
There was no prince in Seville
who could compare to him,
nor sword like his sword
nor heart so true.
Like a river of lions
was his marvellous strength,
and like a marble toroso
his firm drawn moderation.
The air of Andalusian Rome
gilded his head
where his smile was a spikenard
of wit and intelligence.
What a great torero in the ring!
What a good peasant in the sierra!
How gentle with the sheaves!
How hard with the spurs!
How tender with the dew!
How dazzling the fiesta!
How tremendous with the final
banderillas of darkness!
But now he sleeps without end.
Now the moss and the grass
open with sure fingers
the flower of his skull.
And now his blood comes out singing;
singing along marshes and meadows,
sliding on frozen horns,
faltering soulless in the mist,
stumbling over a thousand hoofs
like a long, dark, sad tongue,
to form a pool of agony
close to the starry Guadalquivir.
Oh, white wall of Spain!
Oh, black bull of sorrow!
Oh, hard blood of Ignacio!
Oh, nightingale of his veins!
No.
I will not see it!
No chalice can contain it,
no swallows can drink it,
no frost of light can cool it,
nor song nor deluge of white lilies,
no glass can cover it with silver.
No.
I will not see it!





From: The Phantom Menace ® 18/11/2002 08:05:52
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 247168

Hi Woman:):)

Still sunday here... ;)

Here's a couple for you...


The Meaning of Existence

Les Murray

Everything except language
knows the meaning of existence.
Trees, planets, rivers, time
know nothing else. They express it
moment by moment as the universe.
Even this fool of a body
lives it in part, and would
have full dignity within it
but for the ignorant freedom
of my talking mind.




Peace on Earth

William Carlos Williams

The Archer is wake!
The Swan is flying!
Gold against blue
An Arrow is lying.
There is hunting in heaven--
Sleep safe till to-morrow.


The Bears are abroad!
The Eagle is screaming!
Gold against blue
Their eyes are gleaming!
Sleep!
Sleep safe till to-morrow.


The Sisters lie
With their arms intertwining;
Gold against blue
Their hair is shining!
The Serpent writhes!
Orion is listening!
Gold against blue
His sword is glistening!
Sleep!
There is hunting in heaven--
Sleep safe till to-morrow.


From: The Phantom Menace ® 18/11/2002 08:10:47
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 247171

A Dream Within a Dream

Edgar Allan Poe

Take this kiss upon the brow!
And, in parting from you now,
Thus much let me avow-
You are not wrong, who deem
That my days have been a dream;
Yet if hope has flown away
In a night, or in a day,
In a vision, or in none,
Is it therefore the less gone?
All that we see or seem
Is but a dream within a dream.

I stand amid the roar
Of a surf-tormented shore,
And I hold within my hand
Grains of the golden sand-
How few! yet how they creep
Through my fingers to the deep,
While I weep- while I weep!
O God! can I not grasp
Them with a tighter clasp?
O God! can I not save
One from the pitiless wave?
Is all that we see or seem
But a dream within a dream?


From: The Phantom Menace ® 01/12/2002 00:36:15
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 261578

from Song of Myself

Walt Whitman

Trippers and askers surround me,
People I meet, the effect upon me of my early life or the ward and city I live in, or the nation,
The latest dates, discoveries, inventions, societies, authors old and new,
My dinner, dress, associates, looks, compliments, dues,
The real or fancied indifference of some man or woman I love,
The sickness of one of my folks or of myself, or ill-doing or loss or lack of money, or depressions or exaltations,
Battles, the horrors of fratricidal war, the fever of doubtful news, the fitful events;
These come to me days and nights and go from me again,
But they are not the Me myself.

Apart from the pulling and hauling stands what I am,
Stands amused, complacent, compassionating, idle, unitary,
Looks down, is erect, or bends an arm on an impalpable certain rest,
Looking with side-curved head curious what will come next,
Both in and out of the game and watching and wondering at it.

Backward I see in my own days where I sweated through fog with linguists and contenders,
I have no mockings or arguments, I witness and wait.

From: Angel Eyes ® 01/12/2002 19:56:42
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 262093
From: ern malleyscrub ® 01/12/2002 19:54:29
Subject: Pure Science post id: 262092


Is There Such a thing as Pure Science?


We walk in the world of fact and physics,
we talk in terms of the field of math,
science measures the details of our lives
logic guides our minds
beyond religions mystic path,
through fields of forces,
through fractal courses,
through tangents,cosines,elements,doubt,
through vast millenia,and blip nanoseconds,
we challenge those questions
that might never be worked out.

These journeys are both free,and are caught
by the rapture and capture of pure thought.
I ask us not to sully these echoing halls
with the distraction of gossip,myth,and magic,
there is more amazement in the real universe
than in all of fictions battles,joyful,tragic,
and within religions promise is merely a curse.

Let's find a noble note to our intellectual airs
talk of noble gas might easily smell like a fart
there's little so brittle as scientific pride,
it may not be our aim to turn truth into art,
but surely,as the world turns,
the world is changed by what we feel inside.

Science is not merely information,or dry bones,
science is not mere whim or numbered map,
science speaks through many voices and choices,
science seeks to avoid the well hidden trap
of the popular and easy answers
and the heroic but mistaken ideal,
science may stumble,like those dancers
who seek to express what they feel
but are swept away by the musics beat
and find the floor
too slick for their feet.





From: The Phantom Menace ® 01/12/2002 20:05:29
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 262097
They Said It Could Not Be Done

Benny Hill

They said that it could not be done,
He said "Just let me try."
They said, "Other men have tried and failed,"
He answered, "But not I."
They said, "It is impossible,"
He said, "There's no such word."
He closed his mind, he closed his heart...
To everything he heard.

He said, "Within the heart of man,
There is a tiny seed.
It grows until it blossoms,
It's called the will to succeed.
Its roots are strength, its stem is hope,
Its petals inspiration,
Its thorns protect its strong green leaves,
With grim determination.

"Its stamens are its skills
Which help to shape each plan,
For there's nothing in the universe
Beyond the scope of man."
They thought that it could not be done,
Some even said they knew it,
But he faced up to what could not be done...
And he couldn't bloody do it!

From: ern malleyscrub ® 01/12/2002 20:09:34
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 262100
post script-
gee,didnt look to find poetry thread! sorry 'bout that!

From: Woman:) ® 22/12/2002 21:15:12
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 287375
because it's Sunday...and because I have a toothache...

Reflections Dental

by

Phillis McGinley

How pure, how beautiful, how fine
Do teeth on television shine!
No flutist flutes, no dances twirls
But comes equipped with matching pearls.
Gleeful announcers all are born
With sets like rows of hybrid corn.
Clowns, critics, clergy, commentators,
Ventriloquists and roller skaters,
M.C.s who beat their palms together,
The girl who diagrams the weather,
The crooner crooning for his supper -
All flash white treasures, lower and upper.
With miles of smiles the airwaves teem,
And each an orthodontist’s dream.

“Twould please my eye as gold a miser’s -
One charmer with uncapped incisors.


From: The Phantom Menace ® 24/12/2002 11:39:31
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 288391

O Tannenbaum

O Tannenbaum, o Tannenbaum
Wie treu sind deine Blätter
Du grünst nicht nur zur Sommerzeit,
Nein, auch im Winter, wenn es schneit.
O Tannenbaum, o Tannenbaum,
Wie treu sind deine Blätter.

O Tannenbaum, o Tannenbaum,
Du kannst mir sehr gefallen.
Wie oft hat nicht zur Weihnachtszeit
Ein Baum von dir mich hoch erfreut.
O Tannenbaum, o Tannenbaum,
Du kannst mir sehr gefallen.

O Tannenbaum, o Tannenbaum,
Dein Kleid will mich was lehren.
Die Hoffnung und Beständigkeit,
Gibt Trost und Kraft zu jeder Zeit!
O Tannenbaum, o Tannenbaum,
Das will dein Kleid mich lehren.


From: Farnsworth ® 24/12/2002 11:46:21
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 288396
Bloody pine trees and winter talk for an Aussie Christmas. Shame on you TPM, be at home among the gum trees

From: The Phantom Menace ® 24/12/2002 11:53:02
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 288400

Oh I am at home with the gum trees...

This is just for those who feel at home when the world is cold...



From: Woman:) ® 24/12/2002 12:13:03
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 288422
*popPing*

Awwwwwww The Phantom Menace:)

Oh I am at home with the gum trees...

This is just for those who feel at home when the world is cold...


Thank you and for the "Tannenbaum"...you represent what for me is the quintessence of what makes many "Australians" soooo adorable.:)

Yes, around Christmas I'm homesick for Germany and for Snow and for Pine Trees....


From: Woman:) ® 12/01/2003 00:22:58
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 296545
The author of this poem, Arthur Guiterman, American humorist, poet, journalist, and librettist, born of American parents at Vienna, Austria, Nov. 20, 1871, died exactly 60 years today, 11.1.1943.


"Ode To The Amoeba"

Recall from Time's abysmal chasm
That piece of primal protoplasm
The First Amoeba, strangely splendid,
From whom we're all of us descended.
That First Amoeba, weirdly clever,
Exists today and shall forever,
Because he reproduced by fission;
He split himself, and each division
And subdivision deemed it fitting
To keep on splitting, splitting, splitting;
So, whatsoe'er their billions be,
All, all amoebas still are he.
Zoologists discern his features
In every sort of breathing creatures,
Since all of every living species,
No matter how their breed increases
Or how their ranks have been recruited,
From him alone were evoluted.
King Solomon, the Queen of Sheba
And Hoover sprang from that amoeba;
Columbus, Shakespeare, Darwin, Shelley
Derived from that same bit of jelly.
So famed is he and well-connected,
His statue ought to be erected,
For you and I and William Beebe
Are undeniably amoebae!

from:http://www.newtrix.com/poems/backpage.htm#G



From: The Phantom Menace ® 17/01/2003 09:09:36
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 299141

The Stars

by Mary Mapes Dodge

They wait all day unseen by us, unfelt;
Patient they bide behind the day's full glare;
And we who watched the dawn when they were there,
Thought we had seen them in the daylight melt,
While the slow sun upon the earthlink knelt.
Because the teeming sky seemed void and bare,
When we explored it through the dazzled air,
We had no thought that there all day they dwelt.
Yet were they over us, alive and true.
In the vast shades far up above the blue, --
The brooding shades beyond our daylight ken --
Serene and patient in their conscious light
Ready to sparkle for our joy again, --
The eternal jewels of the short-lived night.


From: Woman:) ® 22/01/2003 12:43:20
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 306113
I like A.A.Milne's poetry. Where's the poetry thread?..

A votre service :) But we are still waiting for answers from the Lab, where the losts posts have gone...



From: Pete ® 22/01/2003 12:49:38
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 306131
(Best recited out loud with a marching beat)

Lines and Squares
A.A.Milne


Whenever I walk in the London street
I'm ever so careful to watch my feet
And I walk in the squares...
And the masses of bears
Who wait on the corners all ready to eat
The sillies who walk on the lines in the street
Go back to their lairs...
And I say to them "Bears!
"Just look how I'm walking in all the squares!"

And the little bears say to each other "He's mine!
"As soon as he's silly and steps on a line!"
And some of the bigger bears try to pretend
That nobody cares
Whether you walk on the lines or the squares...

But only the sillies believe their talk
It's ever so 'portant how you walk
And it's ever so jolly to call out "Bears!
"Just watch me walking in all the squares!"

From: Woman:) ® 22/01/2003 13:08:15
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 306181
(Best recited out loud with a marching beat)

Lines and Squares
A.A.Milne...


I did, it marched ;-) :D

===========================

Someone challenged me once to find even "one dud" by Emily Dickinson...I didn't. I wonder what she would have posted in a few of the present threads...


435

Much Madness is divinest Sense
To a discerning Eye
Much Sense - the starkest Madness
'Tis the Majority
In this, as All, prevail
Assent - and you are sane -
Demur - you're straightway dangerous -
And handled with a Chain -


(Emily Dickinson)





From: Woman:) ® 25/01/2003 18:55:28
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 312395

From: Bubblecar ® 25/01/2003 11:33:05
Subject: re: Mixing drinks post id: 311906


Well, last night ruby mixed:

Chardonnay with Whiskey,
& Cooper's Ale with Rum -
(The former made her frisky,
The latter made her numb)
But she downed it all heroically
& just for science' sake,
To find out if such mixtures
Would cause her skull to ache....

But luckily they didn't
& she woke up feeling fine,
To break her fast with Dubonnet
Washed down with strong Port Wine!

:)

From: ruby. ® 25/01/2003 18:27:50
Subject: re: Mixing drinks post id: 312363


*wipes tear away from eye*

That's beautiful,Bubblecar.
Even nicer that you wrote numb and not dumb...
:)

Thanks to all for the humour too,rather takes away the need for self medication,does
humour...

From: The Phantom Menace ® 09/02/2003 04:52:02
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 332964

The Sun Rising

John Donne

Busy old fool, unruly Sun,
Why dost thou thus,
Through windows, and through curtains, call on us?
Must to thy motions lovers' seasons run?
Saucy pedantic wretch, go chide
Late schoolboys, and sour prentices,
Go tell court-huntsmen that the king will ride,
Call country ants to harvest offices,
Love, all alike, no season knows, nor clime,
Nor hours, days, months, which are the rags of time.

Thy beams, so reverend and strong
Why shouldst thou think?
I could eclipse and cloud them with a wink,
But that I would not lose her sight so long:
If her eyes have not blinded thine,
Look, and tomorrow late, tell me
Whether both th' Indias of spice and mine
Be where thou leftst them, or lie here with me.
Ask for those kings whom thou saw'st yesterday,
And thou shalt hear: "All here in one bed lay."

She is all states, and all princes I,
Nothing else is.
Princes do but play us; compar'd to this,
All honour's mimic, all wealth alchemy.
Thou, sun, art half as happy 's we,
In that the world's contracted thus;
Thine age asks ease, and since thy duties be
To warm the world, that's done in warming us.
Shine here to us, and thou art everywhere;
This bed thy centre is, these walls, thy sphere.


From: The Phantom Menace ® 16/02/2003 11:01:22
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 343564

Three takes on Relativity...


Relativity

A. H. Reginald Buller

There was a young lady named Bright
Whose speed was far faster than light;
She set out one day,
In a relative way
And returned on the previous night.



Relativity

David Herbert Lawrence

I like relativity and quantum theories
because I don't understand them
and they make me feel as if space shifted about like a swan that can't settle,
refusing to sit still and be measured;
and as if the atom were an impulsive thing
always changing its mind.



Relativity

Robert Service

I looked down on a daisied lawn
To where a host of tiny eyes
Of snow and gold from velvet shone
And made me think of starry skies.

I looked up to the vasty night
Where stars were very small indeed,
And in their galaxy of light
They made me think of daised mead.

I took a daisy in my hold;
Its snowy rays were tipped with rose,
And with its tiny boss of gold
I thought--how like a star it glows!

I dreamt I plucked from Heaven's field
A star and held it in my hand.
Said I: "The might of God I wield,
The Great and Small I understand."

For when the All is said and done,
In Time and Space I seem to see
A daisy equal to a sun,
Between heart-beats--Eternity






Well it is Sunday!

From: Preacher77 ® 16/02/2003 11:30:59
Subject: re: Poetry VIII post id: 343586
I don't think this has much to do with science, but I just wrote it and decided to share it with you.

What an "amazing coincidence" that there was a "Poetry" thread here ready for me to paste into? God KNOWS how that would happen ;)

PROCRASTINATION Inc.


We have a major problem here, this fire can escape;
We need to put a BACK-BURN in, to keep it in its place;
But no, we cannot do it yet, decisions must be made:
By those back in an office, mostly those more highly paid.

We start the ball a rolling, contact with them through the air;
We tell them of the danger, of the grave concern we share;
We explain there must be action, that this line must go in now;
To be told to wait till they get back, or face a heated row.

The office staff controllers, in a huddle post our call;
Discuss the situation, draw some lines upon a wall;
Some may pore their maps with avid eyes, discuss the long-term plan;
While we sit back and wait this out, all useless to a man.

Have they thought of doing this or that, I think they should go here;
Are the lunches ready to be sent, they’re hot on that round here;
The forecast is for rain you know, so that should put it out;
And wait we do, us useless men, and watch the fire rout.

Procrastination Inc has caused the fire to escape;
We relay this too through the air, suggest another take;
But WAIT they say, don’t do that yet, we’ll have to think this through;
We’ll get back to you when we can, to tell you what to do.

This is the “modern” way that we fight fires in this age;
Decisions come down from the top, through ether thick and vague;
The Fire-Fighters ON THE LINE, don’t dare this system buck;
So fires grow, while those who KNOW, could put them out - with luck.

These words might seem to many an attack on rear control;
But for me it goes much deeper, to our country’s heart and soul;
For these measures have arisen through the LITIGATION line;
Where if things go wrong, you could be faced, with Gaol or hefty fine.

The Lawyers and the litigants, don’t see like you or I;
They only see the dollar sign, or tears they had to cry;
They cannot see decisions made, were made with good intent;
And this mindset blames the fireman - after the event.

We NEED the rear controllers to ensure that things get done;
We need them for logistics, Air Attack, but not for one;
We don’t need them to prevent escapes, can’t have the TIME DELAY;
For it leads to bigger fires at the end of the long day.

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