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| From: Walla ® |
8/28/01 5:26:02
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| Subject: Second bounce
spin |
post id:
393228
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Why does a golf ball spin
backwards on the green on the second bounce, but not the first? Is it
something to do with momentum? Same thing seems to happen with a cricket
ball that is hit behind square.
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| From: Grant¹
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8/28/01 5:39:02
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| Subject: re: Second bounce
spin |
post id:
393238
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Why does a
golf ball spin backwards on the green on the second bounce Have
to admit, i've never seen it happen, and i'd expect the more bounces, the
less likely it's be spinning backwards.
Possibly it was already
spinning backwards on the first bounce (if sliced), but it's not untill
the 2nd bounce the spin becomes slow enough to
see.
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| From: Walla ® |
8/28/01 5:43:42
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| Subject: re: Second bounce
spin |
post id:
393244
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I meant the ball moves backwards
on the green, ie against the original direction of the
shot.
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| From: Grant¹
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8/28/01 5:57:03
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| Subject: re: Second bounce
spin |
post id:
393250
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I meant
the ball moves backwards on the green, ie against the original direction
of the shot. OK. I have seen it occur on the first bounce,
but this is only on a very short chipshot out of a bunker onto a green-
the ball has plenty of back spin, and not much forward momentum, so it
rolls backward once it hits the ground.
With longer shots it
probably has even more backspin, but it's forward momentum is even greater
still, so the first bounce slows it's forward momentum considerably (but
not enough to over come it's forward momentum), by the second it still has
enough back spin to actually overcome the forward momemntum & so it
spins back towards where it came from.
That's my guess
anyway.
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| From: procrastination inc |
8/28/01 7:24:04
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| Subject: re: Second bounce
spin |
post id:
393322
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Playing with a super ball, I've
noticed that the direction of spin changes with each bounce. If you put
sidways rotation on it, it will leap left to right on one bounce and on
the next right to left. This reduces, as does the rebound height with
every bounce.
I don't think this would apply to golf balls. They
wouldn't have the grip on the green to do that.
They seem to behave
like billiard balls in spin. When a billiard ball leaves the cue with back
spin, it skids forward until it loses its forward
momentum:
a..before its spin is lost, where it rolls
backward
b..after its spin is lost, and it rolls
forward
c...as its spin is lost and stops short.
Could
be that on the first bounce, the golf balls forward speed is too high and
the grip to low for the spin to effect the direction of
travel.
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