| From: squirrel | 24/05/2001
17:33:26 |
| Subject: old timers | post id:
307022 |
| is it true that aluminium pots
increase the likelyhood of you getting Alzheimer's | |
| From: sam | 24/05/2001
17:46:52 |
| Subject: re: old timers | post id:
307024 |
| No, it's not. The experiment that
reached that conclusion was sloppy, and several other (outside) factors
influenced the results. | |
| From: THOG ® | 24/05/2001
17:47:07 |
| Subject: re: old timers | post id:
307025 |
| last I heard was that that whole
aluminium thins was all an experamental error...where the aluminium was in
the culture medium. Never saw anything to this effect but I'm satisfied with it. | |
| From: Zardoz ® | 24/05/2001
18:10:58 |
| Subject: re: old timers | post id:
307055 |
| To date, scientists conclude
there is no evidence that exposure to aluminium or aluminium products
causes Alzheimer's disease. That conclusion is supported by a myriad of studies, including work funded by the National Institutes of Health. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA), the Alzheimer's Association, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, and the World Health Organisation have issued statements recognising the lack of evidence supporting the theory that exposure to aluminium or aluminium products causes Alzheimer's disease, or providing grounds to influence the use of products containing aluminium. The FDA contends that aluminium in the diet should have no adverse health effects. Research shows that the aluminium contribution to the diet from metallic products is very small, especially compared with that ingested in the form of FDA- approved food additives and drugs.  http://www.aluminum.org/default3.cfm/131/133/1 | |
| From: J.F. ® | 02/06/2001
11:29:30 |
| Subject: re: old timers | post id:
312776 |
| Not going too well, am I?
:( I heard similar claims about pewter So have I, geo. I think old fashioned pewter was considered a major source of lead poisoning in Ancient Rome. This page: http://www.onr.com/user/llbrown/knowwhat/000138.htm mentions that lead is not present in modern pewter. More lead free pewter at: http://www.windchimesandmore.com/Home_Page/Pewter_Figurines/Fantasy/Pegasus/pegasus.html lots more out there. | |
| From: Alan™ ® | 02/06/2001
12:24:36 |
| Subject: re: old timers | post id:
312782 |
| Modern pewter
composition Component Wt. % Cu 0.25 - 3 Pb Max 0.5 Sb 1 - 8 Sn 90 - 98 Although I really disagree, with this alloy compostion being called pewter, as the term pewter refers to an alloy of tin and lead. This new material may have the appearence of pewter, but it isn't really pewter. It should have been called something else. | |
| From: Brad | 06/01/2000
16:32:00 |
| Subject: Alzheimers Disease | post id:
24049 |
| I remember watching something on
the box which said that Aluminium was not the cause or a result of
Alzheimers Disease. Can anyone confirm my memory? Where did I get this
information from. Apparently it was a leach from some form of test which deposited that Al in the samples and therefor could be classified as one of the great modern-day #$%@-ups in science. Please set me straight if I need setting .. Ta. | |
| From: Brad | 06/01/2000
18:06:00 |
| Subject: re: Alzheimers Disease | post id:
24104 |
| The question again is ... Is this
correct? Is Aluminium just a big mistake for the Alzheimer research people? Have they excluded it as a possibility? ... and any other relavent info you might have would be nice ... thanks .) | |
| From: Mac | 06/01/2000
20:33:00 |
| Subject: re: Alzheimers Disease | post id:
24134 |
| The latest info I have on file is
about two years old and comes from the American College of Sports Medicine
chronic diseases database. As of 1997 there is no known etiology or cure
for this chronic degenerative disease. Pathophysiology is quite
interesting but I wont bore you with that. It is a primary cause of
dementia, women are more susceptible than men and diagnosis before death
is in their words 'an enigma'. Exclusion of other etiologies is the main
basis of diagnosis. There are 3 types probable, definite and possible. Oh
yes and there was no mention of aluminium (or should I say aloominum as it
is USA material) | |
| From: Rapunzel | 07/01/2000
1:27:00 |
| Subject: re: Alzheimers Disease | post id:
24195 |
Brad, I heard that the aluminium idea was probably a result of an artefact of a staining technique used to prepare brain sections for microscopic examination, but haven't seen that in print anywhere, so I'm not sure what the consensus is at the moment. What I do know is that there is a strong genetic link in Alzheimer's disease. Individuals with two APO-E4 genes are eight times as likely to develop Alzheimer's disease than those who inherit the more common APO-E3 genes. APO-E4 directs the synthesis of apolipoprotein E, which is involved in the processing of cholesterol and has been implicated in atherosclerosis and heart disease. It appears that in the brain, apolipoprotein E binds to beta-amyloid protein, causing the formation of senile plaques and neurofibrillar tangles. The beta-amyloid protein appears to act as a neurotoxin in Alzheimer sufferers, despite being a normal constituent of the brains of healthy people as well (but in lower amounts). What causes the accumulation of beta-amyloid protein in the brains Alzheimer patients is not known at present, but it is known that the protein does its damage to the neurons by destroying their ability to regulate their internal calcium balance. | |
| From: Dr. Ed G (Avatar) | 07/01/2000
7:11:00 |
| Subject: re: Alzheimers Disease | post id:
24219 |
| I heard the same thing about the
aluminium link to Alzheimer's being an artefact of the staining process
used in the analysis of the brains of people who'd died with the disease,
unbeknownst to the researchers. I don't have a reference but it was
mentioned in a talk given by Dr. E. Palsgard of the University of Oxford,
at an ion beam analysis workshop I attended earlier last
year. Soupie twist, Ed G.  | |
| From: michael c | 07/01/2000
9:35:00 |
| Subject: re: Alzheimers Disease | post id:
24231 |
| One reference I was reading last
night said that aluminium can cause the same neurofibrillar tangles that
appear in Alzheimer's, but that the tangles were not shown to be the cause
of Alzheimer's so there was no definite link. Michael C J | |