| From: Stuart Eliot | 17/01/2001
1:01:18 |
| Subject: Is anti-perspirant bad for you? | post id:
208717 |
| If I spray on some
anti-perspirant before exercising, is it bad for me? Assuming the stuff works, I would perspire less than without it. Assuming also that my body wants to sweat (because I am exerting myself on a hot day), it is probably for a very good reason. I suspect that not being able to perspire properly may be bad for me. Does anyone have any ideas on this one? | |
| From: Ordinary Person ® | 17/01/2001
1:04:32 |
| Subject: re: Is anti-perspirant bad for you? | post id:
208719 |
| Sounds reasonable in a way, but
do antiperspirants actually stop you sweating, or do they absorb the sweat
by chelating the water onto small fragments of the
powder? Actually, I guess it doesn't matter either way; it ain't evaporating, so you aren't getting cooler. All I will say is that normally one puts a.p. under one's armpits, and there are plenty of other places to sweat. | |
| From: CJW ® | 17/01/2001
1:07:46 |
| Subject: re: Is anti-perspirant bad for you? | post id:
208722 |
| Anti-perspirants are usually all
aluminum based. (Even the so-called-natural rock ones.) How you view this
information depends largely on your phobia of
aluminium. | |
| From: neil neil ® | 17/01/2001
11:27:15 |
| Subject: re: Is anti-perspirant bad for you? | post id:
208836 |
| Something to do with killing and
neutilising bacteria which makes you smell. If i'm wrong someone will correct me. | |
| From: netster | 17/01/2001
12:21:17 |
| Subject: re: Is anti-perspirant bad for you? | post id:
208866 |
| I recall reading somewhere that
there was a suggested link between anti-perspirant and breast
cancer. Anti perspirant is applied to the armpits and inhibits the perspiration there. Perspiration is a form of bodily excretion. If the excretion is not allowed to take place naturally - is inhibited by the anit-perspirant - harm can be caused to the lymph nodes (is it?) in the vicinity of the armpit. Perhaps contributing to a disproportionate rate of breast cancer in the users of the anti-perspirant. I don't think anything has been proven. Just suggested at / hinted at. | |
| From: CJW aka | 17/01/2001
12:29:32 |
| Subject: re: Is anti-perspirant bad for you? | post id:
208871 |
| An e-mail message that has been
broadly circulated recently states that the use of antiperspirants is the
leading cause of breast cancer. This is an inaccurate statement that is
causing alarm for many women. Apparently, some people think that
perspiration is a way for the body to rid itself of "toxins." In reality,
perspiration is a mechanism to regulate body temperature. The fluid we
call "sweat" does not contain any toxins. It contains natural bodily
wastes like water, urea, salt and fatty substances. Preventing
perspiration under the arms does not affect the body's ability to
eliminate these wastes, as they can be eliminated through other areas of
the body such as the soles of the feet and hands and most other body
surfaces. Extensive research has been done on the risk factors associated with developing breast cancer, none of which have been linked to the use of antiperspirants. Research does show that the two most significant risk factors for developing breast cancer are being female and getting older. A woman may be at an even higher risk if she has experienced any of the following: A personal history of breast or ovarian cancer. A close relative who has had breast cancer before menopause or in both breasts. Menstruation starting at an early age (before 12) Late menopause (after 55) The birth of a first child after the age of 30 or not having children at all A previous breast biopsy showing abnormal cells, such as lobular carcinoma in situ (LCIS) or atypical hyperplasia Early detection and treatment offer the best chance currently available for surviving breast cancer. The Susan G. Komen Breast Cancer Foundation recommends the following steps: Annual screening mammography beginning by age 40 and continuing throughout your life. Clinical breast examination at least every 3 years beginning at age 20 and annually after age 40. Monthly breast self-examination beginning by age 20. http://www.breastcancerinfo.com/news/html/062499.asp | |
| From: CJW aka | 17/01/2001
12:41:17 |
| Subject: re: Is anti-perspirant bad for you? | post id:
208874 |
| The actual answer
..... Antiperspirant sticks and roll-ons work better than sprays; use products containing aluminium chlorhydrate, the only approved antiperspirant chemical that works by sealing-off the sweat glands temporarily. Antiperspirants such as aluminium chlorhydrate work by reacting with sweat glands and sealing them. http://niazi.com/Wellness%20Guide/dh-tips.htm | |
| From: J.F. ® | 17/01/2001
14:17:41 |
| Subject: re: Is anti-perspirant bad for you? | post id:
208917 |
| "Anti-perspirants are usually all
aluminum based. (Even the so-called-natural rock ones.) How you view this
information depends largely on your phobia of
aluminium." Personally, I prefer not to ingest aluminium, though the early evidence of links to Alzheimer's disease were later shown to be just possibly an artefact in the lab (ie false) I think the jury is still out on that case. Anyone more up to date? AP (containing aluminium) applied according to the directions on the container should be OK, IMO. eg applied to unbroken skin... | |
| From: Alan™ ® | 17/01/2001
14:22:39 |
| Subject: re: Is anti-perspirant bad for you? | post id:
208921 |
| I've covered this many times
before. But the quantities you'll receive via anti-perspirants is
neglible, as is what you'll get through cooking in aluminium pots. The
worse offenders are the old headache tablets and anti-acids, that were
aluminium based salts. | |
| From: CJW aka | 17/01/2001
14:28:05 |
| Subject: re: Is anti-perspirant bad for you? | post id:
208923 |
| WERE? Still.... My chemist says he was reviewing the effects of aluminium and Alzheimers. Some bright spark realised that they had a huge field to study because some people have taken aluminium via antacids for half their life. What did they find? That aluminium antacids have a protective effect against Alzheimers. | |
| From: Arno ® | 17/01/2001
14:50:59 |
| Subject: re: Is anti-perspirant bad for you? | post id:
208929 |
| Sorry I remain unconvinced. We know for certain that aluminium plaques are found in all alzheimer cadavers. I just think that as it is a metal that builds up in the system over time it can't just be simply ignored. I therefore chose st. steel equipment for cooking and deodorant for anti smell. I'm quite well aware that good solid research has not been able to link the 2 but i'm a cynical sceptic and don't believe everything research tells me. Call it part obsession. We all have our weaknesses. However, as stated earlier, I also don't believe that miniscule amounts topically do a great deal of harm. Ingestion is another matter. | |
| From: VulcanW | 17/01/2001
15:09:04 |
| Subject: re: Is anti-perspirant bad for you? | post id:
208938 |
| Well done, Arno. So far, no-one
else has differentiated between anti-perspirants and deodorants. Let your
pits sweat - it'll do you no harm at all, but by all means use a
deodorant. . | |
| From: neil neil ® | 17/01/2001
15:11:30 |
| Subject: re: Is anti-perspirant bad for you? | post id:
208941 |
| Is it the dead bacteria that
cause the smell? | |
| From: CJW aka | 17/01/2001
15:18:03 |
| Subject: re: Is anti-perspirant bad for you? | post id:
208945 |
| http://www.drmcdougall.com/science/alzheimers.html This could be an important consideration: Some scientists are particularily worried about inhaled aluminum because autopsy studies have shown a high proportion of senile plaques in the olfactory (smelling) lobes of the brain. Spray antiperspirants would be a likely product for this concern. However, if Alzheimers truly was caused by the oral ingestion of aluminium, people who consumed antacids would be dropping like flies. And another study, analysing the common practice of gold miners inhaling aluminium dust *deliberately* all the time up until 1980, shows impared mental function. But again, not dropping like flies from Alzheimers. This is a problem in causality. Is the aluminum just simply there in the brain because of Alzheimers, or does it cause it? | |
| From: neil neil ® | 17/01/2001
15:21:49 |
| Subject: re: Is anti-perspirant bad for you? | post id:
208950 |
| When you say antacids cjw you are
refering to products such as quickeze? This product contains some sought of aluminium. | |
| From: Alan™ ® | 17/01/2001
15:31:36 |
| Subject: re: Is anti-perspirant bad for you? | post id:
208955 |
| Yes, but the worst ones were
probably the old Bex headache powder Neil Neil. As for cooking pots. I'm not spotting the december thread, where I covered it. But aluminium forms a natural oxide layer that prevents the material underneath oxidising further, it's well bonded onto the base material. Aluminium is inert to weak acids, such as those found in cooking. However it reacts strongly in causic (alkine) environments. When people used to hand wash their pots and pans in detergent, there was no problem. But now people put them in the dish washer, with a caustic dish washing powder. What happens is the aluminium reacts strongly, becoming heavily pitted and the oxide residue is washed away in the final rinse. So the amount you would consume would still be extremely neglible. | |
| From: Arno ® | 17/01/2001
15:35:48 |
| Subject: re: Is anti-perspirant bad for you? | post id:
208958 |
| Pretty well all antacids that I
am aware of contain aluminium, whether they be tabs or liquid
suspension. Now, Vulcan W I don't wish to sound paranoid, but I'm a bit wary in handing my email address to anyone who pops up on the net. And your wish for me to contact you..,?? Sorry about that. I use Linx - Africa. It is cheap, has no Al and the most of the girls at work love it. Working in a female dominated area one must perform and keep them happy. Ha!Ha! | |
| From: CJW ® | 17/01/2001
15:36:45 |
| Subject: re: Is anti-perspirant bad for you? | post id:
208959 |
You can get pure calcium carbonate antacids and they are OK if you only take a few pills a day, so you don't get a form of calcium overload. Mylanta liqiud has a couple of forms. Last time a bought some, which was about 3 years ago, they were still selling an aluminium/magnesium/calcium product. The main reason the aluminium is there is to counteract the runs caused by the magnesium. And of course, they are both there so's you don't have to have too much calcium in the mix. | |
| From: CJW ® | 17/01/2001
15:46:38 |
| Subject: re: Is anti-perspirant bad for you? | post id:
208962 |
|
http://www.werner-saumweber.de/alzheime/genrisks.htm
Overall, the results of several studies suggest (to me) that your chances of getting AD are greatly reduced if you avoid known environmental risk factors, things like excessive intake of tofu, even zinc..... | |
| From: CJW ® | 17/01/2001
15:51:20 |
| Subject: re: Is anti-perspirant bad for you? | post id:
208963 |
|
http://www.plaingood.com/$webmsg.read.PLAINASK.113.readplain
At the same time, brains of Alzheimer patients have not only high aluminum levels, but also low mangesium levels. Magnesium participates in 300 enzymatic reactions in the body. Foods high in magnesium are legumes, tofu, seeds and nuts, whole grains and green leafy vegetables. | |
| From: Arno ® | 17/01/2001
16:27:22 |
| Subject: re: Is anti-perspirant bad for you? | post id:
208980 |
| And here's something paraphrased
from brainconnection.com .., 'In spite of some early concern that Al may have some role in Alzheimers, studies have found no relationship. It does create a condition that results in Al ions replacing Fe ions and accumulating in cells, which may contribute to existing dementia. They now believe excessive amts of Zn may promote formation of amyloid plaques. Abnormal Zn metabolism has also been found in Alzheimers pts.' So there you have, we're none the wiser. | |
| From: CJW ® | 17/01/2001
19:23:44 |
| Subject: re: Is anti-perspirant bad for you? | post id:
209119 |
| Yes. However, the more I read
that article, the more I became aware that it had an agenda. About 2/3 of
the way down, it started bringing up fluoride. It's really an all purpose
rant against multinationals. There's a lot of anti-soy
propaganda. There's a lot of weird and wonderful chemicals in soy, so anything is possible. I've seen the Honolulu study reported a different way, and it looks like there's still quite a few variables which are hard to separate from tofu consumption in this study. Remember, most of Asia consumes vast amounts of raw soy products and their brains aint shrinking too much. | |
| From: neil neil ® | 17/01/2001
19:29:46 |
| Subject: re: Is anti-perspirant bad for you? | post id:
209127 |
| "it started bringing up
fluoride" What was said about flouride? Does it have sedative effects? :) | |
| From: J.F. ® | 17/01/2001
21:24:01 |
| Subject: re: Is anti-perspirant bad for you? | post id:
209204 |
| As I have mentioned before on
SSSF, a common technique for staining tissue slices, prior to microscopic
examination, involves adding aluminium to the slice. This is the very common "haematoxylin plus eosin", or H+E stain, giving dark blue- black nuclei, red cytoplasm. Haematoxylin is most conveniently made up by adding aluminium, as a mordant. Iron haematoxylin is trickier to use , so is much less commonly used. I mention this, since if aluminium is found in tissue slices after they are soaked in aluminium, it is likely an artefact. There was a TV doco about 1 - 2 years ago, linking homocystine (??homocysteine??) and strokes/ vascular disease to AD, too. From memory, I think it also implicated coffee intake, but I may have got that memory from another source. AD is still rather a mystery. Possibly a lot of "AD" patients are really "post - stroke " patients, who knows? I cook in glass, plastic + stainless steel, FWIW. | |
| From: Stuart Eliot | 18/01/2001
1:54:14 |
| Subject: re: Is anti-perspirant bad for you? | post id:
209387 |
| Thank you all for answering my
question. I have learned about a whole bunch of other things too. Much appreciated | |