From: pigman ® 03/10/2001 21:25:50
Subject: Organics, Orgshamics post id: 439225
Thought be people might be interested in this little study, conducted by InterNutrition - (the) Swiss Association for Research and Nutrition

The whole report is here Health-relevant and environmental aspects of different farming systems: organic, conventional and genetic engineering

The most important findings

From a scientific viewpoint, organic foods are neither healthier nor safer than conventional or genetically modified products. Some studies show that organic foods may contain more fungal toxins than foods produced by conventional methods. Transgenic Bt (Bacillus thuringiensis) maize varieties, on the other hand, occasionally exhibit noticeably smaller quantities of mycotoxins in the kernels than conventional varieties do.

In terms of nutritional composition and the effects on animal feeding, there are no significant differences between conventional and genetically modified feeds. Meat, milk and eggs from animals given GM feeds are just as harmless for human consumption as if they had come from animals fed on conventional feeds.

The problem of cross-fertilization by pollen (gene transfer) between genetically modified plants and related wild species as well as between transgenic and conventional crop varieties only arises with few important species of cultivated plants. Detailed studies must be undertaken on a case-by-case, place-by-place, plant-by-plant and transgene-by-transgene basis. Growing crops by various agricultural systems side by side has always been possible and will continue to be so in future.

The field studies carried out so far with transgenic, pest resistant crops do not confirm the environmental risks predicted by critics. For example, Bt maize varieties do not result in a temporary reduction in the number of beneficial organisms in the field, as can be observed with some synthetic pesticides.

Already shortly after their introduction transgenic plants prove to be a valid option for a farming approach that sustains resources and protects the environment. The savings achieved so far in pesticide use and the improvements in ground flora and fauna can be ranked alongside the efforts of integrated production and organic farming on behalf of a more sustainable agriculture.


From: Geraint ® 03/10/2001 21:32:01
Subject: re: Organics, Orgshamics post id: 439233
Hi Pigman - there has been growing literature on this topic - I read a report recently called "The Fear Profiteers" which looked at how some groups profit from making a scare.. Also, how the resultant removal of certain products (asbestos, DDT etc) has led to increased numbers of deaths in fires, from malaria etc..

From: pigman ® 03/10/2001 22:07:34
Subject: re: Organics, Orgshamics post id: 439258
Relevant here as well....

More bugs in organic chickens

By David Derbyshire, Science Correspondent
(Filed: 03/10/2001)


ORGANIC chickens are three times as likely to contain Britain's most common food poisoning bug than battery birds, say Danish researchers.

A study of 22 organic broiler flocks found that all were infected with the campylobacter bacterium, compared with only a third of 79 conventional flocks


From: cheshirekate ® 03/10/2001 22:35:58
Subject: re: Organics, Orgshamics post id: 439269
SO why is the stuff so much more expensive??? :)

From: pigman ® 03/10/2001 22:36:51
Subject: re: Organics, Orgshamics post id: 439272
Organic Schmorganic

By Steven Milloy
Copyright 2000 Fox News
December 29, 2000, FoxNews.com

Organic foods are now an official, "USDA-approved" scam. The U.S. Department of Agriculture just issued regulations defining what foods may be labeled "organic."

The regulations provide that fruits, vegetables and meat and dairy products may not be labeled as "organic" if they are produced with the use of pesticides, irradiation, genetic engineering, growth hormones, or sewage sludge.

Foods that meet the USDA criteria may carry the "USDA Organic" seal as early as next summer.

"Let me be clear about one other thing. The organic label is a marketing tool. It is not a statement about food safety. Nor is "organic" a value judgment about nutrition or quality," said Secretary of Agriculture Dan Glickman in announcing the new rules.

Secretary Glickman's disclaimer is amply supported by scientific evidence and our experience with non-organic or "conventional" foods.

No data indicates legally applied pesticides have caused even one health problem despite more than 50 years of use on agricultural crops - a fact that has even been acknowledged by leading pesticide critic Dr. Phil Landrigan of the Mt. Sinai School of Medicine.

By killing dangerous foodborne pathogens such as E.coli and listeria, irradiation reduces the risk of food poisoning. Biotech foods approved for human consumption are evaluated for safety before they are allowed to be marketed. Meat and dairy products produced from cows supplemented with growth hormones are physically indistinguishable from meat and dairy products from un-supplemented cows.

Foods grown with treated sewage sludge may seem unsavory, but is organic food grown with cow manure any more appealing? In any event, food grown in treated sewage sludge isn't a safety problem.

Despite Secretary Glickman's disclaimer, the rule is intended to do just what he says it isn't. About one-half of the public already believes that organic foods are healthier, safer and better for the environment, according to opinion surveys. The USDA label only serves to validate and encourage these beliefs. The label doesn't carry Secretary Glickman's disclaimer.

That's why the organic foods industry and its henchmen are so pleased about the new U.S.-government-sanctioned myth. Many activists make livings promoting fear campaigns around safe food while at the same time having personal financial interests in alternative, organic products that benefit from those fear campaigns:

Secretary Glickman announced the new rules at a recently opened Fresh Fields supermarket in Washington, D.C. Fresh Fields is owned by Whole Foods Market, Inc, an organic foods business that pushed for the labeling requirement and markets itself by scaring the public about conventional foods. ....

Greenpeace just entered the organic foods business, announcing that it will license a line of 12 organic products in Brazil.

After years of spreading fear about biotechnology, Lord Peter Melchett quit as head of Greenpeace UK to join Iceland Foods, a major UK organic grocer that supports Greenpeace. The UK Advertising Standards Authority censured Iceland Foods in May for a supermarket brochure that spread fear about biotech foods, even alleging that biotech foods were linked with deaths.

The Greenpeace-organic foods industry cabal operates in the U.S., too.

Greenpeace's U.S. and U.K. operations share the same public relations outfit, Fenton Communications - the firm credited with starting the 1989 hysteria over alar in apples. Fenton represents organic foods businesses, such as ice cream manufacturer Ben & Jerry's Homemade, Inc., working to scare consumers about dairy products from cows treated with recombinant bovine growth hormone.

Mark Ritchie, a key organizers of anti-biotech and anti-conventional agriculture activist campaigns through the Institute for Agriculture Trade Policy, Genetically Engineered Food Alert, Crop Choice Coalition and biotech_activist Listserv, also runs a for-profit organic coffee company whose sales increase with each new food scare.

Craig Winters, an activist demanding labels on biotechnology-produced foods, is also a lobbyist and marketing consultant to the organic food industry. Mr. Winters has publicly stated his goal is to achieve a ban on biotechnology crops through labels. His list of organic and natural products financial ties is easily found at his web site, yet few challenge his motives.

The president and members of the board of directors of Genetic-ID, the firm now famous for helping Friends of the Earth discover that some taco shells contained unapproved - but safe - biotech corn, also run a wide range of organic and natural products and services companies.

They belong to a quasi-religious cult that promotes organic agriculture and a political movement, the Natural Law Party. The NLP platform promotes organic methods and attacks biotechnology.

Each food scare they help promote with clients such as Friends of the Earth and Greenpeace increases the cash flow into their various other interests.

Where does this cash come from? Consumers who are suckered into buying organic.

Organic foods cost an average of 57 percent more than conventional foods, according to Consumer Reports. These higher costs could amount to $4,000 annually for a family of four, according to the USDA.

Organic foods should just be labeled. "Ripoff!"


From: pigman ® 03/10/2001 22:41:41
Subject: re: Organics, Orgshamics post id: 439281
SO why is the stuff so much more expensive??? :)

cost of production is higher as it is more labour intensive,

and people will pay for it, in the false belief that they are better off

demand exceeds supply and resultantly premiums can be received

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